Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: Salvadoran Seeking Asylum in Canada...

  1. #1
    Salutatorian
    Points: 6,346, Level: 33
    Level completed: 99%, Points required for next Level: 4
    Overall activity: 3.0%
    Achievements:
    VeteranTagger Second Class1000 Experience PointsNew Achievement!5000 Experience Points
    mamita3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Cincinnati
    Posts
    1,392
    Points
    6,346
    Level
    33
    Thanks
    300
    Thanked 407 Times in 291 Posts
    Time Online
    1 Day 5 Hrs 59 Mins 1 Sec
    Avg. Time Online
    1 Min 36 Secs
    My Mood
    Inspired

    Salvadoran Seeking Asylum in Canada...

    Hello,

    I know a Salvadoran who is seeking asylum in Canada because he does not believe he is eligible for asylum in the U.S. Here's the situation:

    1. Salvadoran came to the U.S. undocumented a few years ago and was pulled over for a traffic violation. He was charged for driving without a license and was deported in May of this year.
    2. When he went back to El Salvador, he and his son were being harassed and threatened by the gangs in their area. Salvadoran's son was in a relationship with a girl who one of the local gang members wanted to be with and because she chose Salvadoran's son, his life as well as his father's life has been threatened.
    3. When Salvadoran was in El Salvador back in May after being deported he was assaulted by the gang and suffered injuries. He fled El Salvador and re-entered the U.S. as an EWI for the second time. For this reason, he doesn't believe he is eligible for asylum in the U.S. because of the deportation.

    He wants to apply for asylum in Canada but doesn't know how and what steps are needed to do so. Would he be eligible for asylum in Canada? If so, can he use an attorney from the U.S. to apply? Can he apply on his own for himself and his son? He was told of an office in Detroit that handles asylum cases in Canada, does anyone know about this resource?

    Any insight is greatly appreciated! Thanks so much!
    Mr. and Mrs. Mamita3's Timelinehttp://immigrate2us.net/forum/showth...611#post419611

    "We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; We are perplexed but not in despair;
    Persecuted, but no forsaken; cast down, but NOT DESTROYED." 2 Corinthians 4:8-9
    P.U.S.H.
    Pray Until Somthing Happens




  2. #2
    Super Moderator
    Points: 67,249, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 41.0%
    Achievements:
    Recommendation Second ClassVeteranTagger Second Class1000 Experience PointsOverdriveNew Achievement!
    Awards:
    Posting Award
    Tropical's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Posts
    25,499
    Points
    67,249
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    2,633
    Thanked 4,515 Times in 3,511 Posts
    Time Online
    5 Mths 1 Wk 5 Days 10 Hrs 47 Mins 53 Secs
    Avg. Time Online
    3 Hrs 29 Mins 33 Secs
    My Mood
    Sassy
    Country: United States
    Safe Third Country Agreement

    Under an agreement with the United States, refugee claimants must seek asylum (protection) in the first safe country where they arrive. For example, if you entered Canada at a land border from the United States, you will not be able to claim refugee protection in Canada. Sometimes there are exceptions (such as those who already have family in Canada).

    He may be eligible to apply for asylum in the US and would maybe stand the same chances as in Canada
    Asylum Bars

    You can be barred from both applying for and receiving asylum for certain actions.

    Bars to Applying for Asylum

    You may not be eligible to apply for asylum if you:

    Did not follow the one-year filing deadline and did not file your Form I-589, Application for Asylum and for Withholding of Removal, within one year of your last arrival in the U.S. or April 1, 1997, whichever is later.
    Had a previous asylum application denied by an Immigration Judge or the Board of Immigration Appeals.
    Can be removed to a safe third country under a two-party or multi-party agreement between the United States and other countries.
    There are exceptions to these bars for “changed circumstances” or “extraordinary circumstances.” Both are defined in 8 CFR 208.4. For more information on the bars and the exceptions, see our “Title 8, Code of Federal Regulations” page.

    Bars from a Grant of Asylum

    You could be barred from a grant of asylum if we find that you:

    Ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in the persecution of any person on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion
    Were convicted of a “particularly serious crime” such that you are a danger to the United States
    Committed a “serious nonpolitical crime” outside the United States
    Pose a danger to the security of the United States
    Have been firmly resettled in another country before arriving in the United States
    You will also be barred from receiving asylum if you are inadmissible because you:

    Have engaged in terrorist activity·
    Are engaged in or are likely to engage after entry in any terrorist activity·
    Have incited terrorist activity
    Are a representative of a foreign terrorist organization
    Are a member of a terrorist organization
    Have persuaded others to support terrorist activity or a terrorist organization
    Have received military-type training from or on behalf of any organization that, at the time the training was received, was a terrorist organization
    Are the spouse or child of an individual who is inadmissible for any of the above within the last 5 years
    The key for asylum is to fall into one of these:
    Every year people come to the United States seeking protection because they have suffered persecution or fear that they will suffer persecution due to:
    Race
    Religion
    Nationality
    Membership in a particular social group
    Political opinion
    Last edited by Tropical; 08-12-2011 at 05:40 PM.
    Timeline:
    08/2003 - Hubs EWI from El Salvador
    08/08/08 - Married in NYC
    11/22/11 - Visa Interview
    04/16/12 - Expedite request submiited, approved 2 days later
    05/17/12 - Waiver approved!!! (6 months)
    05/27/12 - Stepped in the US as LPR
    02/27/15 - Eligible for citizenship
    **Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer. Romans 12:12**


    Getting started - Process overview*Selective Service applies to male immigrants*FOIA request
    Useful links - Lockbox filing timelines* User Recommended Attorneys*Guide for NVC* TPS AOS after Advanced Parole
    I-601-Resources for Proving Extreme Hardship*How to Assemble I-601 packet*Sources of evidence
    Hablo Español*New Years 2013 Challenge*El Salvador Interviews Log
    **Nothing I say should be considered legal advice. Consult with an experienced attorney regarding your specific case.**




  3. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Tropical For This Useful Post:

    Los G (08-13-2011),mamita3 (08-12-2011),SavannahLopez (08-13-2011)

  4. #3
    Salutatorian
    Points: 6,346, Level: 33
    Level completed: 99%, Points required for next Level: 4
    Overall activity: 3.0%
    Achievements:
    VeteranTagger Second Class1000 Experience PointsNew Achievement!5000 Experience Points
    mamita3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Cincinnati
    Posts
    1,392
    Points
    6,346
    Level
    33
    Thanks
    300
    Thanked 407 Times in 291 Posts
    Time Online
    1 Day 5 Hrs 59 Mins 1 Sec
    Avg. Time Online
    1 Min 36 Secs
    My Mood
    Inspired
    Thanks so much, Tropi!
    Mr. and Mrs. Mamita3's Timelinehttp://immigrate2us.net/forum/showth...611#post419611

    "We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; We are perplexed but not in despair;
    Persecuted, but no forsaken; cast down, but NOT DESTROYED." 2 Corinthians 4:8-9
    P.U.S.H.
    Pray Until Somthing Happens




  5. #4
    Valedictorian
    Points: 6,729, Level: 35
    Level completed: 9%, Points required for next Level: 321
    Overall activity: 22.0%
    Achievements:
    1000 Experience PointsNew Achievement!Veteran5000 Experience Points
    GenCar1972's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Cincinnati OH/Aguilares El Salvador
    Posts
    1,590
    Points
    6,729
    Level
    35
    Thanks
    1,024
    Thanked 434 Times in 376 Posts
    Time Online
    3 Wks 5 Days 8 Hrs 25 Mins 29 Secs
    Avg. Time Online
    33 Mins 59 Secs
    My Mood
    Yeehaw
    Country: El Salvador
    Sorry to hear about your friend mamita3. I hope things work out for him somehow. How are you and family?

  6. #5
    Magnifici
    Points: 10,801, Level: 44
    Level completed: 90%, Points required for next Level: 49
    Overall activity: 20.0%
    Achievements:
    VeteranNew Achievement!Three Friends10000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    4,453
    Points
    10,801
    Level
    44
    Thanks
    242
    Thanked 553 Times in 489 Posts
    Time Online
    4 Wks 1 Day 2 Hrs 57 Mins 18 Secs
    Avg. Time Online
    37 Mins 34 Secs
    Does he realise that the next time he is caught he faces jail time as well as deportation?

  7. #6
    Salutatorian
    Points: 6,346, Level: 33
    Level completed: 99%, Points required for next Level: 4
    Overall activity: 3.0%
    Achievements:
    VeteranTagger Second Class1000 Experience PointsNew Achievement!5000 Experience Points
    mamita3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Cincinnati
    Posts
    1,392
    Points
    6,346
    Level
    33
    Thanks
    300
    Thanked 407 Times in 291 Posts
    Time Online
    1 Day 5 Hrs 59 Mins 1 Sec
    Avg. Time Online
    1 Min 36 Secs
    My Mood
    Inspired
    Quote Originally Posted by GenCar1972 View Post
    Sorry to hear about your friend mamita3. I hope things work out for him somehow. How are you and family?
    Hey Genny,

    So good to hear from you! How are YOU? I'm so excited to read on the other thread that your case is coming along. Still keeping you and your husband in my thoughts and prayers. My family and I are doing alright. My husband is in school for engineering and is working pretty steadily. We went through a rough patch for awhile with him not finding employment in this area. Though we have our ups and our downs, we're committed to persevere. Stay strong, Genny! I really admire your determination and
    unwavering dedication to your husband and this grueling process. Keep in touch!


    ---------- Post added at 11:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:36 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Coventrated View Post
    Does he realise that the next time he is caught he faces jail time as well as deportation?
    Yes, he does realize this.
    Mr. and Mrs. Mamita3's Timelinehttp://immigrate2us.net/forum/showth...611#post419611

    "We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; We are perplexed but not in despair;
    Persecuted, but no forsaken; cast down, but NOT DESTROYED." 2 Corinthians 4:8-9
    P.U.S.H.
    Pray Until Somthing Happens




  8. #7
    Junior Member
    Points: 2,806, Level: 22
    Level completed: 3%, Points required for next Level: 244
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    1000 Experience PointsNew Achievement!Veteran

    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    MI
    Posts
    160
    Points
    2,806
    Level
    22
    Thanks
    12
    Thanked 47 Times in 43 Posts
    Time Online
    1 Day 7 Hrs 32 Mins 50 Secs
    Avg. Time Online
    1 Min 41 Secs
    Country: El Salvador
    Does he have family in Canada? My husband's family in Montreal has talked to an attorney there and they said that my husband could qualify for assylum through his aunt even though he was in the US first. We had considered going this route and have him wait out the waiver in Canada, but he would not be able to go to ES for his appointment then.
    July 2007 Hubby EWI from ES
    July 2008 We met
    July 18, 2009 Ceremony to celebrate our commitment to each other (had to postpone wedding because we were waiting on paper work from ES)
    Nov. 21, 2009 Legally Married!

    8/17/10 - Step-daughter's I-130 received
    11/15/10 - Husband's I-130 received
    11/23/10 - Step-daughter's I-130 APPROVED
    5/20/11 - Husband's I-130 APPROVED
    5/22/11 -Baby boy born healthy and happy!!

  9. #8
    Salutatorian
    Points: 6,346, Level: 33
    Level completed: 99%, Points required for next Level: 4
    Overall activity: 3.0%
    Achievements:
    VeteranTagger Second Class1000 Experience PointsNew Achievement!5000 Experience Points
    mamita3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Cincinnati
    Posts
    1,392
    Points
    6,346
    Level
    33
    Thanks
    300
    Thanked 407 Times in 291 Posts
    Time Online
    1 Day 5 Hrs 59 Mins 1 Sec
    Avg. Time Online
    1 Min 36 Secs
    My Mood
    Inspired
    Quote Originally Posted by dyh718 View Post
    Does he have family in Canada? My husband's family in Montreal has talked to an attorney there and they said that my husband could qualify for assylum through his aunt even though he was in the US first. We had considered going this route and have him wait out the waiver in Canada, but he would not be able to go to ES for his appointment then.
    Hi dyh,

    He does not have family in Canada and only has a friend who lives there. The information Tropi gave really helped out tremendously! I also found a resource in Detroit, MI called the Freedom House http://freedomhousedetroit.org called to ask them a few questions as well. Everything they shared with me was exactly the info. Tropi posted. Hope it works out for you and your husband!
    Mr. and Mrs. Mamita3's Timelinehttp://immigrate2us.net/forum/showth...611#post419611

    "We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; We are perplexed but not in despair;
    Persecuted, but no forsaken; cast down, but NOT DESTROYED." 2 Corinthians 4:8-9
    P.U.S.H.
    Pray Until Somthing Happens




  10. #9
    Super Moderator
    Points: 67,249, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 41.0%
    Achievements:
    Recommendation Second ClassVeteranTagger Second Class1000 Experience PointsOverdriveNew Achievement!
    Awards:
    Posting Award
    Tropical's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Posts
    25,499
    Points
    67,249
    Level
    100
    Thanks
    2,633
    Thanked 4,515 Times in 3,511 Posts
    Time Online
    5 Mths 1 Wk 5 Days 10 Hrs 47 Mins 53 Secs
    Avg. Time Online
    3 Hrs 29 Mins 33 Secs
    My Mood
    Sassy
    Country: United States
    Quote Originally Posted by dyh718 View Post
    Does he have family in Canada? My husband's family in Montreal has talked to an attorney there and they said that my husband could qualify for assylum through his aunt even though he was in the US first. We had considered going this route and have him wait out the waiver in Canada, but he would not be able to go to ES for his appointment then.
    We thought about doing this but with non-immigrant intent...I would be a student, he would be my accompanying spouse. When I was done with school we would not have status and we would be forced to leave.

    If you seek asylum you are asking for permanent residence? In your waiver you are arguing you need your spouse in the US and you cannot move with him to his country. The argument becomes harder if he establishes himself in a 3rd country. You might be able to pull it off if its a 3rd world country and life is tough (many hardships), but you sort of lose that argument in Canada if you seek immigrant intent. Just my perspective.
    Timeline:
    08/2003 - Hubs EWI from El Salvador
    08/08/08 - Married in NYC
    11/22/11 - Visa Interview
    04/16/12 - Expedite request submiited, approved 2 days later
    05/17/12 - Waiver approved!!! (6 months)
    05/27/12 - Stepped in the US as LPR
    02/27/15 - Eligible for citizenship
    **Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer. Romans 12:12**


    Getting started - Process overview*Selective Service applies to male immigrants*FOIA request
    Useful links - Lockbox filing timelines* User Recommended Attorneys*Guide for NVC* TPS AOS after Advanced Parole
    I-601-Resources for Proving Extreme Hardship*How to Assemble I-601 packet*Sources of evidence
    Hablo Español*New Years 2013 Challenge*El Salvador Interviews Log
    **Nothing I say should be considered legal advice. Consult with an experienced attorney regarding your specific case.**




  11. #10
    Junior Member
    Points: 2,806, Level: 22
    Level completed: 3%, Points required for next Level: 244
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    1000 Experience PointsNew Achievement!Veteran

    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    MI
    Posts
    160
    Points
    2,806
    Level
    22
    Thanks
    12
    Thanked 47 Times in 43 Posts
    Time Online
    1 Day 7 Hrs 32 Mins 50 Secs
    Avg. Time Online
    1 Min 41 Secs
    Country: El Salvador
    Our lawyer said that it should not have any impact on our case since you can wait anywhere outside of the US. However, we are no longer considering this route right now. He would not be able to leave Canada to go to ES for his appointment. If he goes to Canada, he will have 10 years outside the US before he could come back here to visit. His family in Canada is just trying to figure out a way for him to not have to go to ES.
    July 2007 Hubby EWI from ES
    July 2008 We met
    July 18, 2009 Ceremony to celebrate our commitment to each other (had to postpone wedding because we were waiting on paper work from ES)
    Nov. 21, 2009 Legally Married!

    8/17/10 - Step-daughter's I-130 received
    11/15/10 - Husband's I-130 received
    11/23/10 - Step-daughter's I-130 APPROVED
    5/20/11 - Husband's I-130 APPROVED
    5/22/11 -Baby boy born healthy and happy!!

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •