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Laura
11-09-2007, 05:14 PM
A few weeks ago our garage was broken into. We live in an urban area, so we have an alley, and according to the police officer that did the report, people can rig garage-door openers (specifically a certain kind of Craftsman opener from Sears) so that they can drive up and down the alleys attempting to open the doors. If they get lucky, one opens, and they park their van right up next to the open garage door and loot it.

Well, they unfortunately got lucky with us, really lucky in fact, as my husband had thousands of dollars of mechanic tools stored in our garage. They took about $2500 worth, strangely leaving my new Trek bike, but grabbing as many of his tools as they could before a neighbor apparently saw them, thought it was suspicious and said something or just watched them for a while, and apparently the guys freaked out, closed the door and drove off. The neighbor got the license plate of the thieves, but I'm guessing nothing came of that, because the police haven't gotten back to us.

So.... we got a police report and everything, and after talking to our insurance agent, decided we would file a claim. Even though we have a $1000 deductible, we figured at least we would get $1000 to $1500 back. It took us a while to get the report together, and initially they just asked for the make, item name, model # and age of all the items. So, Fermin spent two evenings at Sears and some other places he buys tools writing down all the information for everything that was stolen.

I typed all this up and turned in a nice spreadsheet, and now I get a call from a different American Family guy asking me to fax in all the information that proves that we actually had these items. (***??!!) I mean, I understand they need to protect against fraud, but we have never filed a claim before, there is a police report with all this stuff in it, and frankly, who keeps receipts for this stuff? Besides that, if they were going to require that sort of documentation, they could have told us beforehand, as we probably wouldn't have gone to all the trouble to put this stuff together, as we don't have the receipts.

My husband could list off like every tool he had taken, but he doesn't have very many receipts. The other thing is that Craftsman offers lifetime warranties on their items, but you just bring the item to Sears and they just give you a new one, there are no warranty cards or anything. So I think we are SOL. When I was talking to the guy I tried to get him to clarify that we were going to need receipts and all that, and he was being purposefully vague I feel. I mean, if we're not going to get the money back, I don't want to go ahead and file the stupid claim, they could at least be a little clear so they don't waste people's time! :curse:

Lachulagreeneyes
11-09-2007, 05:20 PM
wow laura I'm sorry you are going through this. I personally think insurance itself is a fraud at times because they are perfectly willing to take your money but when it's time for a claim they always give you a hard time. Good luck!

Adriane
11-09-2007, 05:21 PM
I've heard of this before. I was advised to take photos of all my stuff of value by a friend in the insurance business- but who photographs all their stuff?

Do you think it would work to submit a signed affidavit from someone who knew Fermin had all those tools? Someone from work, maybe?

Good luck- I would call back and be a pain in the ass, demand to know what all constitutes acceptable "proof".....

ojos_de_alicia
11-09-2007, 05:35 PM
yea i think the same.. they take ur money but when its time for them to shell it out.. its a biggg deal!!... i would def call back and be very demanding! (ill lend you my attitude if u need it lol)

Laura
11-09-2007, 05:59 PM
LOL - Yeah, I mean, it's not the end of the world that we are going to end up not getting the $1000 or $1500, but I'm just annoyed that we have been wasting our time getting all this stuff together for them only to then request a bunch of stuff that we could have told them, off the bat, that we didn't have. The guy is supposed to call me back this afternoon, I can be pretty b$&$hy when necessary, but I don't know if that is going to help. I mean, if Fermin dug up receipts for a third of the items, would that be reasonable - or does "reasonable" mean more than half... grrr...

Someone at work was telling me that she videotaped herself walking around her house picking up items, reading off the serial numbers and whatnot! I mean, come on, who does that??? I don't know if anyone besides my husband's undocumented, non-English-speaking friends and brothers who could really attest to the tools, and even they aren't going to be able to say, "Yes, I know he had a 3/8" Drive Torque Screwdriver set," or whatever, you know? They could say he had a lot of tools, but the police report states that there was obviously things taken, but it looks like they are not going to just take our word for it.

ecobian
11-09-2007, 06:09 PM
Yeah! Insurance is such a rip off! I do think you should give them a piece of your mind though about them not telling you about the receipts in the first place. Did you use a CC to buy any of the stuff? maybe you can go back and get the statements online for it. Also get the neighbor who saw the whole thing to write a letter for you...In my opinion, the insurance companies are the real thieves here!!!!

Laura
11-09-2007, 06:44 PM
Yeah, the guy asked if we had purchased anything with cards, but my husband has always used cash, up until very recently. I've had to harass him the last few months to get him to make use of that new social security number, and last week he finally opened up a line of credit to get some activity going on with his credit score.

joy&pain
11-09-2007, 07:54 PM
If the items were purchased less than a year ago, then yes, they typically will ask for receipts. If over a year ago, then typically they will ask for owner's manuals if one exist. If the item(s) doesn't/don't come with an owner's manual then the company I work for just requests a sales ad of a comparable item.

Sorry that happened to you Laura. I hate bad claims adjusters... ugh. Get nasty if ya need to! ;)

Laura
11-09-2007, 08:35 PM
Yeah, none of this stuff has owner's manuals. I mean, they're like wrenches and socket sets for all different measurements, a lot of small, inexpensive items that add up and then a few bigger items like the air compressor and a few nice air-gun tools. I just talked to my hubby, he said what I though, that because most of the Craftsman stuff has lifetime warranties and you just return the tools to get them replaced, he has never kept the receipts. :(

linda
11-16-2007, 03:36 PM
Hi Laurafern,
Sorry I did not see this post before, but if you haven't bought another garage door opener, you may want to look into a brand called Lift-Master. They provide a rolling code every time you use your remote, and cannot be opened by someone using another remote. They are a little more expensive than the Craftsman, but well worth it. The security-plus models are the best.

Laura
11-17-2007, 04:32 AM
Hey guys - quick update. I gave the statement finally last Friday and they were still kind of suggesting that I was going to need to turn in receipts for most of the large items. I talked to Fermin again about it and he basically said that the stuff he did have he got rid of when he was organizing pre-heading to Mexico, so I never submitted anything other than the list with all the model numbers and whatnot we had already prepared.

Soo... I was waiting for them to call me this week and ask where my stuff was, but today the guy called and told me we should be receiving a check for most of the amount minus the deductible (still $1500 in total!) in a few days.

So, not sure how that worked out, but it did - yeah!

SHELLYFCO
11-17-2007, 05:38 AM
This is the pits! So sorry for your loss...being robbed hits home. I recently had my car broken in to ...they didn't steal anything, in fact I think we caught them in act...then you turn to your insurance agency and it's more trouble than it is worth. You find out how much and how far all thos monthly payments take you.

MendozaQH
11-20-2007, 02:48 PM
Well, at least it worked out in the end!! Somewhat....

Laura
11-20-2007, 03:03 PM
Yup - after all the hassle, I was thinking we weren't going to get anything back, so $1500 was a welcome surprise!