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Dana
09-21-2007, 09:01 AM
Hello friends. I open this thread like a scream about everything happens with the waivers. After I read Manda deniel letter,really I am disgusted. I am wondering if the Moscow read her letter or maybe the CIS had a bad night. Because, C'MON guys this is ridicolous. These levels for approve a waiver are without sense. In special the level 1, medical proof. It sounds like, ok, I approve your waiver because your spouse/wife will die or he/she will spend his life in the hospitals or taking pills. And, I don't approve your waivers because your spouse/wife is well,so, why to have a good life here in US? Conclusion, are spouses and wives has to have cancer, a surgery, psoriazis etc. In the case a Manda is.... I don't find the right word, but just because she is born in US, just because they have an US child, this is not enough??? ENOUGH HAS TO BE JUST THE REASON THAT TWO PEOPLES ARE A FAMILY AND THEY LOVE EACH OTHER. I wonder if a CIS who denied such a letter knows the word LOVE???
Good bless you and really we have to do something,our scream has to be hearing by somebody who can change something or helping us.
Ohhh, and I am wondering, if Manda's waiver packet was prepared by Laurel,the persons without a lawer are lost? OF COURSE, IF HE/SHE HAS NOT CANCER etc.etc.etc. :sad::please: Somebody help us!!!

VeronikaK
09-21-2007, 02:44 PM
Dana, i agree with you so much! i have exactly the same feelings, that your US spouse should be deadly ill, in order to approve this waivers. I donts know, maybe person , who is ajusting a waivers hate all immigrants or they a little bit off. When i went to my first interview to INS, i had a ku-ku guy, who was interviewing me. He definatly doesnt know that the love is, i am not sure if he knows that a relationship at all, and i know why. I wouldnt date person like him, because he was out of space. I really hope that they have a diffrent kind of people working there!

Glühbirne
09-21-2007, 03:26 PM
I understand also. I remember getting peeved when I heard that a "battered spouse" could petition alone for residence without leaving the country no matter what thier status was, and it got me thinking. I wondered, "Perhaps if I start to beat up my husband, he can petition without leaving."

I know how frustrating it can be. It ticks me off that there is such an inconsistency among different consulates. I don't get why some countries are so much harder than others. For example, why are London and Mexico so easy while the Phillipines and others are so hard?

california_luv
09-26-2007, 08:09 PM
Dana, you know I think your assumptions are right. Either your spouse is dying or you won't get approved. How do you prove extreme hardship when you can't be with the person you love?! I feel this is just a sorry excuse.
We got denied too, appealed that and denied again. Damn!

Ron

Dana
09-26-2007, 08:16 PM
California luv, O MY GOD!!! This is terrible! Sincerly I don't want to imagine what i will do if I will be in your case. They are crazyyy, i don't have words. I wonder how an adjudicator can sleep after he/she destroy a family. At which Consulate and which country? What for he need an waiver and what hardship you have? Sorry again and maybe God will help you next time.

california_luv
09-26-2007, 08:37 PM
I am the ALIEN (I hate this word), my wife is the USC. I am in Paris, but it's Rome, Italy who denied us. I wrote a bit about our story in the "appeals" section of the forum. Thanks for your kind words.

Ron

Pinkpig
09-26-2007, 08:44 PM
I am the ALIEN (I hate this word), my wife is the USC. I am in Paris, but it's Rome, Italy who denied us. I wrote a bit about our story in the "appeals" section of the forum. Thanks for your kind words.

Ron


I don't know the particulars of your case but you might want to do a consult with Laurel Scott. She has a very good track record of helping people win approval after denials. visacentral.net

gracey025
09-27-2007, 03:13 PM
Right I agree. It's like the USC spouse should be dying before they will approve the waiver. I'm really scared because I have to go through Manila, Philippines USCIS. We really need a miracle!

Ginger
09-27-2007, 09:02 PM
Guys you are all correct. I know that everyone speaking from the emotions. That is why we have to stay cool and have to think from the adjudicator’s point of view. That is why we have to prepare our waivers as strong as it could be.
And yes, it is TOTALLY up to a mood of the person who is looking at your waiver.

In our case we did not have a major hardship ( parents died 10 years ago, no kids, spouse reasonably healthy,…). That is why we were adding every single grain of evidence in our waiver.
For example, we all know that medical evaluation cost lots of money. Like in a Manda’s case: her brother is seriously ill BUT it is not stated by the doctor. It is her opinion ( in adjudicator’s eyes). If it would have been an evidence from the doctor, that would have made a difference.
Or that she states that she is depressed. All of us can only imagine what that young mother going through. But, there are no documented evidences.

So, sometimes we really need to separate emotions from the facts and see what can we do with the facts in order of them to work to our advantage.

California luv, I am terribly sorry to hear of your denial.

REDaja05
09-28-2007, 07:46 PM
Ginger, Thats sad but so very true. We have to look at your HSL's and evidences just as a the adjudicators would. Its some times hard to put your emotions to the side, but if its what we have to do to get your loved ones home to us then we have to do it!

JennyM
09-28-2007, 08:01 PM
Gluhbirne, Its funny you mentioned that....my fiance told me last week that I should beat him up so he can file for residency.

MistyB
09-30-2007, 11:43 PM
California luv, O MY GOD!!! This is terrible! Sincerly I don't want to imagine what i will do if I will be in your case. They are crazyyy, i don't have words. I wonder how an adjudicator can sleep after he/she destroy a family. At which Consulate and which country? What for he need an waiver and what hardship you have? Sorry again and maybe God will help you next time.


They dont see you as a human. You are a case file. It has to be that way for reason. The law is clinical not emotional. What you have to do is stop thinking with your emotions and get clinical. Input facts not I miss my husband and I want to be with him...I am sorry to be harsh but they hear it all the time and they really dont care. They arent paid to care. They are looking at the facts in your letter to see if you prove what you are saying.

california_luv
10-01-2007, 11:36 AM
They arent paid to care.

You're right. That's a job I would never take on. I'd rather flip burgers, and I am dead serious in saying this. I guess I am still a bit human.

Ron

Ginger
10-02-2007, 08:51 PM
I think that not only officers who look into the waiver like that. I think that all INS officers are made from the same glue. They just do not give a XXX about people. Unfortunately for all of us. We have a choice: to accept till our loved one become a US citizen or decline our rights.

When we started this process my hubby told me that he would rather me to have citizenship of my country and just to renew a greencard (when we would get one for me). Now, after going through the wavier hell, he is the one who is counting days till we can apply for the citizenship and would forget about nightmare as INS.

Think on how many people in this country are illegal, They should give us a “green light” that we want to come out of the closet and legalize, to pay taxes and so on. In the meanwhile, they doing everything in their power to make our life miserable.

catrachowife
10-04-2007, 08:53 AM
As a USC, I agree with you Ginger. We are all going through so much time and effort to get our spouses (or ourselves) legalized, but yet we still have to jump through all these hoops. I don't get it. How many illegal immigrants are here now? Is it 8 million? And they can't make it a little easier for those of us who just so happen to have the misfortune of falling in love with someone from another country? Those of us who are doing everything we can to keep our families together? I only pray that the person making a decision on my husband's case in Honduras has loved someone like I love him. Only then will they begin to understand how this feels!

Manda316
10-04-2007, 12:24 PM
All I can say is that we are appealing. Ive included evidence that im depressed as far as letters from 6 different people that can vouch that im really upset about my brothers condition. Also other documents. I cant get clinically proven of depression cause I cant see a doctor in this country. Also there was evidence in my case that my brother has a severe medical condition doctors records and so forth plus a letter from his psychiatrist. I will be appealing next week and yes I do have a lawyer her name is Laurel Scott. And to the Original Poster you are right with these hard countries. Rome, Lima, Frankfurt, and Moscow you do basically have to be dying to get approved. They dont just let yah pass cause you miss your husband. Frankly its not the fact that I will miss my husband its the fact that I cant survive without him I dont have the family to help and support me like most people do so I need my husband. They dont give 2 farts about seperating families for 10 years. Its not like we would be only a few states away we would be on the other side of the world. Its not like NC and Mexico its America and Armenia(IRAN, IRAQ) that part of the world.