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Laurel Scott
09-13-2007, 05:02 PM
Let me explain the situation with these K3s. The K3 came about when it was taking over two years to adjudicate an I-130 for a spouse of a citizen, but less than six months to adjudicate the I-129F for the fiance(e) of a citizen. Congress, in its infinite wisdom, chose to create a new visa category or more hoops to jump through, rather than trying to make the I-130s go faster. The purpose of the K3 is to get the spouse of a citizen here as quickly as possible while the immigrant visa is in process. They wrote the statute to say that you can file an I-129F for a K3 visa while the I-130 is pending.

The issue becomes - can you file the I-129F for a K3 after the I-130 is approved, but a visa has not been issued. The way the statute is written, the law does not allow for this. However, the letter of the law is in conflict with the spirit of the law. When CIS finally did have an epiphany on how to speed up I-130s for spouses, suddenly all these I-130s got approved and the backlog bubble moved from I-130 processing to consular processing and now instead of waiting two years for your I-130 to be approved, you wait over a year to go through NVC and get your appointment in Juarez. Assuming you're allowed to file your I-129F, you can still get the K3 faster than the immigrant visa, even if your immigrant visa case is finished with NVC processing and you've already been waiting a few months for your consular appointment. The purpose and intent of the K3 visa applies to cases with an already-approved I-130. But Congress did not anticipate this situation and did not specifically create this option when they wrote the statute.

Prior to August 1, 2007, your I-130 and your I-129F for K3 visa went to different locations and were adjudicated independently. If you supplied your I-130 receipt notice with your I-129F, they would adjudicate your case whether or not your I-130 had been approved. I think I even had a few cases where we actually used the I-130 approval notice when filing the I-129F as evidence that an I-130 had been filed. Commencing August 1, 2007 they changed the place where your I-129F is to be sent and they now want you to send it to the office "where your I-130 is pending." The cases are no longer separate and they are rejecting I-129F cases filed after the I-130 is approved and after August 1, 2007.

A rejection is not the same as a denial. In a rejection, they send you back your whole application packet. If you sent a payment, they don't cash it and return it to you. One of the other post Aug 1 changes was that there's no longer a fee required for the I-129F for K3, so there's no fee to return. But if you filed pre-Aug 1 and you paid a fee that has been cashed or accepted, your case is not rejected. But could it be denied?

I've taken a peak at some of my recent approvals. In the past few weeks I have gotten two approvals on I-129Fs filed post-I-130 approval but prior to August 1. On both of them, the decision came in August or September. So, for the moment, I believe they are not denying cases in this scenario filed pre-Aug 1 for which the fee has been accepted.

corazoncita
09-13-2007, 07:00 PM
So in a nutshell, if I have not yet filed an I-130 or an I-129F, I should just plan on filing the I-130, and forget the I-129F. This blows... I guess it costs less this way, though. Just trying to find a bright side...

MendozaQH
09-13-2007, 07:43 PM
So in a nutshell, if I have not yet filed an I-130 or an I-129F, I should just plan on filing the I-130, and forget the I-129F. This blows... I guess it costs less this way, though. Just trying to find a bright side...

No what she is saying is don't wait to file your I-129F. It must be file before the I-130 is approved...there is no reason to forget the I-129F if you have not even filed the I-130, just file it as soon as you get the receipt notice for the I-130.

corazoncita
09-13-2007, 07:48 PM
Yeah I guess I totally misunderstood that one... I thought she was trying to say that the I-129F was becoming obsolete. Thanks for clarifying.

Just out of curiosity, why would someone wait until the I-130 is approved to file an I-129F anyway? Once the I-130 is approved, does it not defeat the purpose of filing an I-129F?

MendozaQH
09-13-2007, 07:52 PM
Yeah I guess I totally misunderstood that one... I thought she was trying to say that the I-129F was becoming obsolete. Thanks for clarifying.

Just out of curiosity, why would someone wait until the I-130 is approved to file an I-129F anyway? Once the I-130 is approved, does it not defeat the purpose of filing an I-129F?

Sometimes there are hold ups for the I-130's. Other times people don't know about it until they come here! Also sometimes things come up and they need to put a personal rush on the process (like an unexpected deportation, ect).

In your case I would definitely go for it. The minute you have the I-130 receipt, send in the I-129F!

Good Luck!

gdalicia
09-13-2007, 08:25 PM
Corazoncita people used to file the I-129f after the I-130 was approved because it was taking so long to get an appointment (usually 6 months or so for the case to be completed at NVC and then another year to wait for an appointment). Our I-129f was approved in August 06 and we received a K-3 appointment in CDJ in December 06, a full year earlier than we would have received it for the CR-1. The big thing to keep in mind is that if your husband enters on a K-3 he will need to adjust status to receive the green card, which is expensive and can be time consuming.

For a faster appointment (especially for people in your situation who have a spouse that will already be waiting outside of the country) it's still a great option. You must file the I-130 first, and then send a copy of the NOA1 with your I-129f application. The only trouble you may have is that due to the recent fee increase backlog you may have to wait a bit to receive the NOA1 on your I-130. I have heard rumors recently that some people are filing both applications at the same time instead of waiting for the NOA1 and USCIS *seems* to be accepting them. You may want to ask Laurel about that in her next chat.

VeronikaK
09-13-2007, 09:08 PM
so, if i have i-130 approved with no i-129f its going to take longer to get appoitment? as far as i know with approved i-130 you have to apply for immigrant visa...

angela256z
09-13-2007, 09:10 PM
So my I-130 is still pending in California and I just sent in the I-129F to California so it should all be fine. Corazoncita - What you need to do is file the I-130, once you get your NOA1 send in the I-129F. Don't wait because you never know what the processing times will be for the I-130.

angela256z
09-13-2007, 09:11 PM
so, if i have i-130 approved with no i-129f its going to take longer to get appoitment? as far as i know with approved i-130 you have to apply for immigrant visa...

That is correct. Right now it is taking about 1 year after I-130 to get an interview for an immigrant visa. If you file the I-129F you may get a non-immigrant visa interview within 3 months of the I-129F approval.

This is all assuming you are filing in CDJ. I am not fimiliar with interview timelines for other countries.

gdalicia
09-13-2007, 09:12 PM
Veronika if your I-130 is approved then the I-129f route is no longer an option. That's the update that Laurel was giving us. You will need to wait until your I-130 is complete at NVC and then they will schedule an appointment at CDJ for you. I believe it's taking around 10 months now for appointments, so the good news is that it seems to be speeding up a bit.

VeronikaK
09-13-2007, 09:17 PM
M-M-M-M-M! 10 month for interview, its long time...why they made things more complicated? hate it...

MendozaQH
09-13-2007, 09:23 PM
so, if i have i-130 approved with no i-129f its going to take longer to get appoitment? as far as i know with approved i-130 you have to apply for immigrant visa...

What consulate are you filing with? This also makes a difference how long you have to wait....

VeronikaK
09-13-2007, 09:26 PM
moscow

JMRJ
09-13-2007, 09:39 PM
yesterday I really thought that I-129F is becoming obsolete also I almost had a heart attack.Thanks to Mendoza she clarified it for me on the other thread:ty:

Maybe this additional information that I just found out can help some:

http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/UpdateDirectFiling062107.pdf

aussiewench
09-14-2007, 07:20 AM
moscow
Veronika, to my knowledge it is only taking a month or two for interviews in Russia. No where near the time it does in CDJ Mexico for the Immigrant Visa.

gdalicia
09-14-2007, 04:56 PM
moscow


Sorry Veronika! I assumed you were going through CDJ. Probably gave you a bit of a heart attack there... hehe :)