Deben Las Personas Sin Moral, Recibir Documentos, Venir A Pudrir Este Hermoso Pais.

[maryhealy]

TENGO UNA VECINA QUE ME DIJO QUE CUANDO VINO A ESTE PAIS SE ASEGRO DE HACER HIJOS, PARA AGARRAR DOCUMENTOS Y DIJO QUE A ELLA LE DABAN FOOD STAMPS Y WIC, AMI NO ME DAN NADA QUE PORQUE MI ESPOSO GANA BIEN, PERO NO CREO JUSTO QUE LOS IMPUESTOS DE MI MARIDO, VAYAN A DAR A LA BOCA DE ESTE TIPO DE PERSONAS:bang::mad:; ES UNA PERSONA ASQUEROSA QUE HA VIVIDO CON VARIOS JOVENCITOS DE 19 A 22 ANOS (LOS CUALES SON ILEGALES) Y ELLA TIENE 47, TIENE UNAS HIJAS BIEN MALCRIADASY HASTA LA HAN GOLPEADO A ELLA QUE ES LA MADRE, SE DROGAN Y SE EMBORRACHAN Y TIENEN LA MUSICA Y ALTAS HORAS DE LA NOCHE, VIVIMOS EN UN PRIVATE COMMUNITY Y NO ESTAN PERMITIDAS ESTAS COSAS TIENEN UN RECORD MUY MALO, Y ME PREGUNTO YO, ESTE TIPO DE GENTE DEBERIAN RECIBIR PAPELES PARA VENIR A ESTE PAIS?????..................................

[mnava]

Es dificil responder a tus comentarios pues no debemos juzgar a las personas, solamente ellos saben por lo que estan pasando pero si es muy triste cuando las personas mal usan las oportunidades y beneficios de este pais. Ojala la situacion mejore.

[kitkat1]

Y ... un inmigrante no es elegible recibir ninguna ayuda estatal - no es posible. Ella probablemente esta mintiendo.

[fash]

Tal vez no es legal que los recibe, pero es posible. Mi cunada recibe WIC y ella no esta aqui legalmente, pero se lo dan por sus hijos ciudadanos.

Y si ella trabaja, paga impuestos tambien. Los impuestos de tu marido solo dan unos 5 centavos por cheque a programas como WIC y food stamps.

[agarrard]

Usted no tiene que ser un ciudadano de conseguir WIC. Trabajo en el Departamento de la Salud y nosotros tenemos WIC. Trabajé también en el Departamento de Servicios Humanos antes el Departamento de Salud y usted no tiene que ser un ciudadano de solicitar foodstamps. Pero usted tiene que tener un dependiente bajo la edad de 18 que es un ciudadano de calificar.

[kitkat1]

You don't need to be a citizen to qualify for certain benefits. But an immigrant is not allowed to receive any form of means-tested public benefits. Their kids who are USCs qualify - but the immigrant himself does not. Food Stamps are a federal means-tested public benefit - an immigrant is NOT eligible. WIC is not a fedeal means-tested benefit - an immigrant is eligible.

That's why affadivits of support are required.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-864p.pdf

[Coventrated]

You don't need to be a citizen to qualify for certain benefits. But an immigrant is not allowed to receive any form of means-tested public benefits. Their kids who are USCs qualify - but the immigrant himself does not. Food Stamps are a federal means-tested public benefit - an immigrant is NOT eligible. WIC is not a fedeal means-tested benefit - an immigrant is eligible.

That's why affadivits of support are required.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-864p.pdf


But not usually enforced, well I have yet to see a case.

[Chula]

That's why so many angry AMERICANS say that illegal immigrants get welfare when infact they only recieve for the USC children.

[ashleypinzon]

Well im not either way on this issue but I know several peoploe who came here at 8 months pregnant just so they could have a usc child.

[Coventrated]

That's why so many angry AMERICANS say that illegal immigrants get welfare when infact they only recieve for the USC children.

But they get it, yes?

Does that not strike you as weird?

[cherrycandy001]

Coventrated, yes the CHILDREN get it. I don't think it is fair to punish children and say "you can't eat and you have no where to live because of who your parents are" every child is precious regardless of the status of their parents. I agree it is wrong but by no means should a child go with out because of a parent.

[thernand]

I agree! It is not right to come here at the last minute so the child is a USC however, I agree that no child should go hungry, be cold, or anything like that just because of their parents legal status. That child is part of the future of the US and if not educated and taken care of properly then we are only creating more people who as adults are going to end up of welfare and never support themselves. The child does not deserve to be punished because of the sins of the parents.
thernand

[Chula]

But they get it, yes?

Does that not strike you as weird?


Weird NO as it has been stated it is for the USC child. Hispanics from my experience would much rather work for anything and try to make vs accept money from the GOV. it's nothing like having and managing your own money I would think.

[rigojuani]

maryhealy, I do agree on what you have stated but not 100% because it is not only the people who have came here ilegal that are rottening this country alot of us that are usc that know the system and abuse it as well because we can apply for this benefeits for ourselves as well as our children. and as far as been ilegal they do use the system for the children. also there is people that do come here pregnant hoping to have a usc child so that maybe one day after 21 yrs they might to become legal and some do this instead of marrying someone who is legal to get paper. I hope I did not offend anyone by my comments I have been reading this thread alot for several days before commenting.

[Chikimyrn]

Unfortunately, some people find many ways to abuse the system. I do not have children, but when in CDJ found out what many close to the border do, thay get tourist visas (they never intend on living in the US) have their children in the US, apply for WIC & Medicaid, then come over for medical visits. If they have relatives or know people in the US, they will ask them to claim them on the income tax return so that they (the mexican parents, not the US resident or Citizen) could get the earned income credit per child.
These children live well in Mexico and do not need the US benefits, also IMO shouldn't be classified as US Citizens, because they do not live here and merely their mother came over when time was due to give birth.
I was asked by a distant distant relative if i could claim their child on my income tax return ....I plainly said NO it's illegal. and i would never be able to prove that this child is really my dependent.
I pay enough taxes that this does URK me.

PS: I do feel differently for the ones that EWI (not that it is right or that i advise anyone to do this) and have children here over time, because even with fake ids and fake SS# many do contribute to the economy and unfortunately pay many taxes over the years that they will never see.

[rigojuani]

I do also agree with you , what I referring to was the one's that do come to make th u.s. their home and better themselves and are trying to give the children a better life then the one that the parents had in the country that they are from. and unfourtantly the some that come legally w/visa's are abusing the system and make's the stats for the one's that are here ilegally

[ashleypinzon]

Yes but how much they do get depends on their income and at least here ive seen that only the hubby will claim his income even though both are working and wont claim there cars because they are plated in other names even though they own them and then they get maximum benefits and are driving nice cars and make good money.

[Chikimyrn]

Exactly, I'm all for .... if you need the help go for it to get you back on your feet, and if see someone struggling and really having a hard time I will recommend they get some kind of social help, however I'm talking about the people, Mexicans who don not even live in the US, and even USC or residents that do live here and have never worked or even think they have to work. or worse think that they have a right not to work and let the system support them. By all means then let all the hard working EWI's and overstays have a chance to stay!!!!

[thernand]

Here Here!!!!!
AMEN

[maryhealy]

saben les agradesco que hayan contestado:bounce:, poniendo su punto de vista o comentario, pero es verdad, que muchas mujeres vienen a este pais solo ppos agarrar documentos, y eso nos hace que dar mal atodas las demas mujeres por que yo me case con mi esposo por amor :love::love:y yo sigo con el por que lo amo, no por los beneficios de estar casada con un americano el dia qeu me deje de el o el ya no me ame me regreso ami pais por que no viviria tranquila, disculpen esta es mi forma de pensar y no utilizaria mis hijos para quedarme en este pais encontra de las leyes tengo derecho a mi visa y y siempre y cuando mi esposo este conmigo es decir alquien que me de un soporte, economico y espiritual por que si me mantiene pero no me ama eso seria como, humillarme en mi amor propio, disculpe si les ofende a alguno de ustedes mi forma de pensar.:shy:

[fash]

Exactly, I'm all for .... if you need the help go for it to get you back on your feet, and if see someone struggling and really having a hard time I will recommend they get some kind of social help, however I'm talking about the people, Mexicans who don not even live in the US, and even USC or residents that do live here and have never worked or even think they have to work. or worse think that they have a right not to work and let the system support them. By all means then let all the hard working EWI's and overstays have a chance to stay!!!!

I'm not going to see that there aren't lazy people leaching off the system, but if you need benefits, the system does make it very difficult for people to get a job and still survive. For those who are on the lowest rung of the ladder, they can either not work and get benefits, or get a job and lose them but not make enough from their job to survive. Of course, that's more the case with things like TANF, not food stamps. But it's one of the things that keeps the cycle of poverty going.

y eso nos hace que dar mal atodas las demas mujeres por que yo me case con mi esposo por amor y yo sigo con el por que lo amo, no por los beneficios de estar casada con un americano

sí, efectivamente. Me canso de escuchar a la gente que hablan a mi esposo de papeles, como eso era la unica rason pa' que nos casemos.