Little reminder

[Marie]

This is a reminder to everyone that when posting, please be aware that certain things are sensitive issues to other members. Things such as race, religion and political views.

Please use tact when posting.

[chikaprada]

Ahhh finally!!

I always read some dumb comments about Mexican people(their ways, and what not), and believe it or not not all Mexicans are the same.

Atte: Me, the Mexican who doesn't eat pork, fried foods and doesn't invite the whole neighborhood to a party I was invited to:cheerful:

[veroyjulio]

I don't feel that the tone that has been used on any of the comments regarding mexicans have been made in a offensive tone.

I do think that we should respect others opinions and if you feel offended by the comments, don't read em :cheerful:

[Rinner]

Ahhh finally!!

I always read some dumb comments about Mexican people(their ways, and what not), and believe it or not not all Mexicans are the same.

Atte: Me, the Mexican who doesn't eat pork, fried foods and doesn't invite the whole neighborhood to a party I was invited to:cheerful:

I don't think these comments were meant to be offensive. But- it is simply a conversation about the Mexican culture. I believe a lot of the things I heard in the thread you were referring to I learned about in spanish class at school. It would be very suprising if people were trying to offend the culture when we love it so dearly. Most of us have Mexican spouses and wouldn't change what they bring to our relationship for a thing.

I found that thread very interesting. Because, a lot of the things I come across with my husbands culture was brought up. It was nice to put some sort of origin to it. Since many of us have never ever been exposed to the culture aside from our husbands, it justify's the behaviors and tendencies we see.


I think it'd be a shame to not see this type of thread in the future. We are here to learn from others and their experiences. If something doesn't apply to you, then skip to another thread. If you have something to add, then please share. I'd be interested to learn more about you and why you don't fit into the typical stereotypes. Did you grow up in another part of Mexico? Please share. (Probably in another thread) You may be able to help educate us about another subculture of Mexico. And, I'd love to hear about it.

[jsierra1982]

ok, well i started that thread (about the party thing, not fried foods etc), and i promise that i didn't mean to be offensive. i titled it "mexican courtesy" for a reason--i want to understand what is courteous in mexican society and also a tactful way to get my beloved mexican husband to understand what is courteous in american society. i was just striving for a little understanding so my husband's and my cross-cultural relationship can be made stronger than it already is by increasing our understanding and respect for each other's cultures, traditions, and beliefs. i didn't feel like i used an offensive tone at all, but if anyone was offended, i'm sorry.

[chulatica]

Ahhh finally!!

I always read some dumb comments about Mexican people(their ways, and what not), and believe it or not not all Mexicans are the same.

Atte: Me, the Mexican who doesn't eat pork, fried foods and doesn't invite the whole neighborhood to a party I was invited to:cheerful:

Okay you know what since it happened to me the other day I also feel that I need to speak up. I mean why is it okay for people to say mexican this and that and when I say the "b" word everyone gets offended??? What is the proper way of saying it then? Please someone correct me? Im considered hispanic, latino, or mexican and those are the proper words to describe me. Never have I gotten offended but now since its bad for me to say to say the "b" word, than shouldn't it be offensive to say mexican?? I never said the word in a bad way. Never did I mean to offend anyone and I never thought anything bad the way I mentioned it.
Yet someone had the nerve to "yell" at me. I don't think that's the way to approach someone who they think has made a mistake. Never have I "yelled out loud" to anyone.

I now know when it comes to race that it is a very sensitive topic.

[Amazonmamita]

I don't think anyone was offended that you said "black", it was the context it was said in. If I remember you said someone sounded a certain race...............and the question was how does someone sound a certain "race".

[chulatica]

No the question was why did I mention how the person sounded and what did it have to do with mentioning the word black?
Why would anything be wrong with describing how the person who was making these calls "sounded". I did say "sounded" its not like I said its this specifically this race and more detailing into that.

[brezarenee]

I think the point that Marie was trying to make is that we should all try to be more sensitive and consider how others might perceive our words. Of course I for one highly doubt that any one on this site would write something with the direct intention of offending another member, but the difficult thing about the written word is that it is often very hard to infer the writer's intention. Human communication is so much more than words - we communicate through intonation, body language, facial expression, and just the way we speak. Because we don't have these influence in an online forum, things are often perceived differently then the poster intended.

The point here is that everyone should try to consider other people's points of view and be very careful about how they word things. On the other side, people should also give the benefit of the doubt when reading statements and not read too much into comments that may just be benign. Of course it only makes sense to clarify the writer's intention before getting upset, because more than likely any offense is just a misunderstanding.

Just be empathetic and patient with one another is what I think Marie wants us to remember.

[Lupita]

im sorry,but i dont take offense when something is said about our culture, both my parents are mexicans and im proud 2 b mexican, i am proud of my culture and negative things that ppl. say go in through one ear and out the other because i know my culture and respect it. I have never been offended by what others have sed in the forum, and any ways y is it so bad that they talk about these thing when ur family probably does too and u just laugh it off? I do.....we joke about these things too so for me they are just fun to read...especially from someone elses perspective.... Eh dicho.. :dots:

[Kikigurl1]

I agree that everyone needs to be careful about what they say... but i also think that when something is said, it should be brought to that person's attention via PM, yeah?.. not in a thread for the whole forum to see so the person that made a mistake in saying something is embarrassed and is unsure of whether or not they should even post here anymore. I hate it when everyone starts attacking someone for an honest mistake.

[tasksgirl]

I agree that everyone needs to be careful about what they say... but i also think that when something is said, it should be brought to that person's attention via PM, yeah?.. not in a thread for the whole forum to see so the person that made a mistake in saying something is embarrassed and is unsure of whether or not they should even post here anymore. I hate it when everyone starts attacking someone for an honest mistake.

:ditto:
I think things went too far and were exaggerated WAY out of hand even editing the post - honestly I've seen much worse things on this forum (including last week) where the poster MEANT to OFFEND that were not edited at all .. I'm not sure I get the double standard.

[Laura]

:ditto:
I think things went too far and were exaggerated WAY out of hand even editing the post - honestly I've seen much worse things on this forum (including last week) where the poster MEANT to OFFEND that were not edited at all .. I'm not sure I get the double standard.

If you see something offensive please bring it to the attention of one of the moderators so we can deal with it (or decide whether we think it needs to be dealt with).

[chulatica]

I think the point that Marie was trying to make is that we should all try to be more sensitive and consider how others might perceive our words. Of course I for one dhighly doubt that any one on this site would write something with the direct intention of offending another member, but the difficult thing about the written word is that it is often very hard to infer the writer's intention. Human communication is so much more than words - we communicate through intonation, body language, facial expression, and just the way we speak. Because we don't have these influence in an online forum, things are often perceived ifferently then the poster intended.

The point here is that everyone should try to consider other people's points of view and be very careful about how they word things. On the other side, people should also give the benefit of the doubt when reading statements and not read too much into comments that may just be benign. Of course it only makes sense to clarify the writer's intention before getting upset, because more than likely any offense is just a misunderstanding.

Just be empathetic and patient with one another is what I think Marie wants us to remember.

:wink:
I think this is well said. You are so right when you mention about speaking and writing. I know that I have no intentions of harming others. I can see a little why Marie posted this announcement.
Like I said I now know what to mention when posting and what not. As Kiki said I think things should be approach via PM when you feel you are offended by the person. Because you can feel offended but others are not.

[Marie]

What brezarenee is exactly what I'm trying to say.

We do contact people via pm and if you see something that offends, please let us know instead of "calling them out".

We're not perfect as mods either and the next time might be handled completly different.

This post isn't directed to specific people. I'm just saying to think about the words you are putting down. :)

[chulatica]

Thanks Marie its clear to me :wink:
Its only human we make mistakes and learn from them.
Now *.*. G R O u P H u G *.*. :grouphug:

[chikaprada]

I neverreplied to any of the threads I found offensive to me because I believe in something called respect and if I've got nothing nice to say(type in this case) I won't type anything.

I just dislike stereotypes, that's all they are...stereotypes.

I never felt like the original posters meant to offend anybody, that I know but still were offensive to me. Especially because I knew it came from someone married to a Mexican, and thought that maybe all Mexicans were all the same.
JSierra I didn't mean to call you out, I didn't even remember who the original poster was, but I did recall the thread.

My mom always cooked very healthy foods and up until this day I am a healthy eater myself.
I just hate it when people(not necessarily here) say Mexican food is greasy, and all Mexicans eat pork, fried foods, and whatever because it isn't true. At least it doesn't apply to me.

I hardly eat tortillas, so not all Mexicans eat tortillas with everything.

I don't have any issues with anybody, and if I did then I'll just avoid the website and that's it. But won't cause drama.

[Auntlily]

It seems like lately people get offended for the slightest things huh??

Like how I always say about *gossipy* people here at work...#1. YOu need to grow a thick skin. We are too many to become P.C. #2. bath with oil before coming to work...stuff will slide right off!!

Anyhow, people please let's not make Marie's and the other Mods jobs more complicated. I know that they need stuff to do, but they don't need to babysit.

I know there are stuff said in the threads that I might not agree to, but I TRY to not take offense and I even won't comment so that things don't get out of control.

Anyhow, those are my two cents. It offends me when Marie has to spank us for things like these....

[Rinner]

It offends me when Marie has to spank us for things like these....

:ditto: You are too funny!

[Marie]

:grouphug:

[aprilstorm]

:loveyou::grouphug: