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ujcdv
06-29-2008, 09:03 AM
I wont be posting on here for a few days.

My wifes brother (where she was staying while we wait out the wiaver process) was murdered this morning, about 3 hours ago eastern time.

So i'm heading back down to Guatemala to for the funeral and to make arrangements for my wife and children. My concern now is for the safety of my wife and children.

I'm hoping to bring back the kids with me and I will need to find a place that is safe for her for the next couple months. I have acouple places in mind where she should be ok. She is hysterical at the moment, the whole family is. I do not know the details, all I know is an argument happened and now he is gone.

Nery was a good man, he had a wife and two children ages 5 and 7. This is just terrible. I am hoping that no revenge killings start to happen as he was a pillar of his community. I just don't know.

Guatemala is not a safe place, it really is like the wild west. I wish the government would take that into account MORE than they do specifically for U.S. citizens going through the waiver process.

Lets just hope that I don't end up like that while I'm there.

I wil try and post back and let everyone know what happened and maybe some of you can give me some ideas on how to get my wifes waiver expidited..or something. This immigration **** sucks ass!

UPDATE: I just got off the phone with my wife, she made me promise her that i'm not going to start any crap with any one (like i'm some type of cowboy who would do that) but she told me that I could bring both kids home. Which was one of my main concerns. This is really really bad for us right now.

Keep us in your prayers please. :(

djones9714
06-29-2008, 12:53 PM
Oh my gosh. I am so sorry. This is terrifying and I just don't know what to say. Words cannot express to you how sorry I am for you and your family. You are right -- this is just not right and nothing I could say could make you feel better right now. Please know that my thoughts and prayers are with you.

You and I have had many discussions about the process and you have helped me tremendously. Please let me know if there is something I can do to help you and your family.

The entire process is not fair and unfortunately for ones like us, we have no pilot program to bring our spouses back to us sooner. It is terrible that our families have to suffer so much at the hands of someone else and we feel that it is out of our control.

God bless you and your family and my prayers are with you. Take care.

JennyM
06-29-2008, 01:29 PM
omg! My husband was telling me about these types of killing....and for no reason at all. His family is the type to go out and hunt the people who got killed. I found out his uncle was murdered and his son went and killed the person who did it. Its really crazy....I don't see why they make people go back to central america! I wish the best for your family and please stay safe!

Chapital
06-29-2008, 02:49 PM
I am so sorry. You and your family will be in my prayers. Be safe!

y14gemini
06-29-2008, 03:00 PM
OMG, I am so sorry! You and your wife and her family will be in my prayers. :hug:

Immi899
06-29-2008, 04:20 PM
I am So sorry. We will be praying for you and your family's safety.

leoshannon
06-29-2008, 05:11 PM
I am so sorry. This is so sad. I hope you find a safe place for your wife unil her waiver. I really don't know why the government does this to people.Your family is in my thoughts and prayers.

Laura
06-29-2008, 05:26 PM
Oh wow... I'm so sorry. It's great that you can go to your wife and help console the family. Please be safe.

KE06
06-29-2008, 05:28 PM
I am so sorry to hear this. I will keep you rfamily in my my prayers. Is there no way to ask for an expedite in Guatamala? This certainly seems like grounds for it.

~MP~
06-29-2008, 05:41 PM
I am so sorry...how scary...thoughts and prayers for all of you.

Amazonmamita
06-29-2008, 05:55 PM
I am sorry that this is happening to your family. I hope you get to them safely and can get them home soon!

ccdc
06-29-2008, 06:03 PM
I am so very sorry you and your family are going through this. I will say a prayer for your family and for your wifes safety and hopefully an approval on that waiver here soon.

aprilstorm
06-29-2008, 06:29 PM
I am so sorry. You and your family are in my prayers. :hug:

DeBenny
06-29-2008, 08:03 PM
Oh! I am really sorry to hear this. Gosh, I cant believe that this goes on. I really do hope that no further events occur.

perez782
06-29-2008, 08:15 PM
I'm so sorry! Have a safe trip and bring your family back (kids) and I do agree with you find a place for your wife (safer place) Best of Luck.

MMGCA
06-29-2008, 08:28 PM
Im so sorry about this!, my prayer are with your family.

China
06-29-2008, 08:34 PM
OMG I am speechless. I will keep you'll in my prayers.

Cherokee
06-29-2008, 08:34 PM
That is terrible news!!! I am so glad that you are able to go and get the kids. I hope that everyone can come home very soon. :(

Brisa6
06-29-2008, 08:40 PM
I'm really sorry to hear about this tragedy. Lots of prayers for your loved ones.

guatemalawaiver
06-29-2008, 09:06 PM
I'm so sorry about this. Its so sad, but situations like this seem very common in Guatemala. I think you're doing the right thing by bringing home your children. Your waiver will be accepted soon. Maybe your wife could go to another part of the country until you hear from the embassy. Someplace closer to the capital so you can get her out of there as soon as possible. Does she have family or friends in other cities?

Cfloresgirl
06-29-2008, 11:47 PM
This horrible..My gosh I am so sorry! please be safe..my thoughts are with you and your wifes family. Please let us know if we can help in any way.

sweetlove1236
06-30-2008, 01:13 AM
i am very sorry my thoughts and prayers are with you.

chalakita
06-30-2008, 02:10 AM
I am so sorry, please you and your wife stay safe!

scastillo
06-30-2008, 02:48 AM
Wow!! i'm so sorry !! Be safe and hope your waiver gets approved soon!!

lisa7078
06-30-2008, 03:38 AM
I am so sorry to hear this. Your family is in my prayers!

simply-heartfelt
06-30-2008, 05:01 AM
So sorry to hear this, please be safe during your journey and I will pray for you and your family.

LucynSergio
06-30-2008, 02:12 PM
Oh WOW, Im so sorry for what you are going through..

christytorres
06-30-2008, 02:20 PM
Sorry to hear about what has happen in your family..I will keep you in my prayers..be safe..god bless..

angela256z
06-30-2008, 11:10 PM
OMG! I am so sorry to hear about the tragedy that you family is facing. You all will be in my thoughts and prayers.

Jwmed
06-30-2008, 11:51 PM
My prayers go out to you in your time of need May God bless you just keep praying.

latinsoulmate
06-30-2008, 11:58 PM
I am so sorry! My heart goes out to your wife and her family. I will pray for your safety & theirs.

I had a guy I dated from Vera Cruz that had a family fued between 3 or 4 families that has went on for several generations. He felt he would be killed if he ever went back or be expected to take revenge on the family that killed his Father.

milliesmom
07-01-2008, 12:55 AM
Wow. I'm speechless. I pray for the safety of all your family.

sandra191406
07-01-2008, 01:10 AM
I'm so sorry to hear this.

epm525
07-01-2008, 02:40 AM
I'm so sorry! Please be safe down there.

Socorro
07-01-2008, 05:38 AM
I am sorry, I will pray for your family.

cindy101
07-01-2008, 01:23 PM
Prayers for your wife and family... Very sorry for your loss, hope you and the kids get home safe- and that your wife and her family can stay safe.

Good luck and God Bless!

Cata
07-01-2008, 01:31 PM
I'm keeping you & your family in prayers for a safe return. You should contact your consulate on procedures for an expedite request. It wouldn't hurt to ask.

mouse7r
07-01-2008, 01:55 PM
Im so sorry!! Ill be keeping your family in my thoughts, be safe!

mamacita
07-01-2008, 02:45 PM
OMG, how awful for you and your wife and children. Please be safe in your journey to bring your children back home, and please take the advice of others and try to move your wife to a safer area or city.

Yes I would try to send an expedite request in reference to the violence in the area where your wife and kids are living and mention you have had to go to Guratemala and rescue your kids and leave your wife behind,,,it certaintly might help!

God speed and be safe!
We will keep you in our prayers!:D

MAMACITA:wave:

liley99
07-01-2008, 06:55 PM
UJC_ I am sorry for what has happened to your wife's family. I have recently been through this, but it was my husband. I am going to say this, it isn't the fault of immigration, I tried to blame it as well, no it is the fault of the ignorant people who are heartless and can take someone's life. I understand you say it is dangerous, but honestly it is dangerous every where.

The way of life now is if it is your time, it is your time! You will all get through this, and sometimes fortunately life continues, it gets harder before it gets easier. I send you my blessing and your in my prayers, I hope that everyone maintains sanity and tries to see the positive of his life.

Also as much as I wanted to go to Mexico and find my husbands killers, believe me joy I would have felt it isn't worth it. I just recently found out that some of them were caught, so they will get their judgement!

Keep your head up and let the wife of the man that was killed know that it will all be alright I too have two children although I live in a different place, there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

I hope I don't offend you, but I just personally went through this now almost 1.2 months ago, so I know the feeling!

Good luck and try to stay positive!

ojos_de_alicia
07-01-2008, 07:03 PM
be safe while you are there

I just recently found out that some of them were caught, so they will get their judgement!

i saw that on the news while i was in juarez... i hope they pay for what they did

Kikigurl1
07-02-2008, 12:53 AM
This literally sucks. I'm so sorry. Hope you have a safe trip there and back and find a good place for your wife to stay.

Praying for you and your family!

ujcdv
07-03-2008, 01:52 AM
Thank you all for the kind thoughts.

I do not have time right now to tell the whole story but will when I get back, I am bringing both children home with me. Just have to get the tickets.

I will be updating in a few days.

Just know that it was bad and very sad.

Thanks again for the prayers

aprilstorm
07-03-2008, 01:58 AM
My prayers are with you!!

Chapital
07-03-2008, 02:45 PM
Thank you all for the kind thoughts.

I do not have time right now to tell the whole story but will when I get back, I am bringing both children home with me. Just have to get the tickets.

I will be updating in a few days.

Just know that it was bad and very sad.

Thanks again for the prayers

Thanks for updating us. I've have been thinking of you and your family.

llanderos11
07-03-2008, 04:43 PM
Wow. I know that Guatemala can be scary. I never go there without my husband by my side. My husband is in Chiapas about a half hour from Guatemala and the same thing happened to him which is why he went to Mexico. His youngest brother was killed. He just disappeared one night and turned up dead. I was really scared for my husband when he went to Mexico - that something might happen to him. I am very sorry about your wife's brother. May God bless your family in their time of need.

ujcdv
07-07-2008, 04:06 PM
I'm back now, I brought both kids with me. Leaving my wife there was very hard.

We know who the killer was, my wife witnessed the entire thing along with two dozen other people. The police are doing absolutly nothing which I expected.

We know the Who, What, Where & How the murder happened, we just don't know the why. The funeral was the saddest one I have ever attended. I documented the entire event for the family though I do not think anybody wants to see it again. I had never been to a Latin American funeral before, it was an experience I do not want to attend again.

I am very very concerned for my wife. If you knew all the details like I do you would be concerned to. I really do not want to go back there and be the one walking behind the vehicle this time as we go to the cemetary.

Since I brought the kids home and am taking care of them, I would like to add this info to my HSL as additional evidence.

Can anybody give me some advise as to how this should be worded?

JennyM
07-07-2008, 04:37 PM
wow....now I'm scared!

[Due to the extreme violence that my wife has witnessed, ie. her brother being murdered, I was determined as a parent to bring my kids home safe with me. By doing so, I have incurred blah blah blah]

Good luck on your letter! I wouldn't put a reference to being a single parent. Too many people are and I don't think they care too much about that. Just talk about the changes...you had to do.

ujcdv
07-07-2008, 06:03 PM
Jenny,

Was I scared while I was there? Yes. The murder was very personal between two families that have a history with each other and the only thing good that came out of it is my son.

I was more concerned about revenge killings from my wife's family but I do not think that is going to happen. I think they are going to let it go because it never ends if you don't. (and if they did do something I would not be writing this now)

But all of this is in Zacapa, which is very dangerous compared to the rest of the country because everyone is armed openly (like the wild west).

In GC, it's not as obvious and Antigua and Attilan are huge tourist attractions, so the weaponry is not as open or pronounced. But go East in the country off the tourist circuit and it's different. Izabal, Morales, Chiqimula, Zacapa, Esqipulas are totaly different than the tourist areas of the country.

Don't get me wrong, there is a whole lot of good in the country and it's beautiful. I'm sure when you visit your husbands family, you will have the time of your life. They will except you into the family and become part of it. You will be treated very well. I'm sure of it. I love my wifes family very much and they are apart of my life now and I'm close with them.

But for most people in Guatemala, life in is hard including both of our extended families because alot of people have nothing and people with nothing usually have nothing to lose so things can happen.

But things can happen anywhere including your own town. So don't be afraid, just stay with your husbands family and have fun when you go.

Salsa2
07-07-2008, 06:17 PM
This all seems like good grounds for an expedite request. Have you contacted your senator or congressperson? An expedite requested through their offices might be the best procedure in this situation.

Chapital
07-07-2008, 06:21 PM
This all seems like good grounds for an expedite request. Have you contacted your senator or congressperson? An expedite requested through their offices might be the best procedure in this situation.

I agree...your circumstances would have me calling my senator. I am glad your children are back with you and pray your wife will be soon.

ujcdv
07-07-2008, 06:39 PM
I'm working on contacting my representatives, I have a cousin who knows Congressman Tellers personaly and maybe he can get my waiver expidited.

I have not had any luck with either of my Senators or my congressman helping me, they seem to not want to get involved.

JennyM
07-07-2008, 06:54 PM
My in laws have already openly welcomed me, so that is good. We sent them pics and my MIL always tells me she loves me and she doesn't even know me because of how I have changed her son for the better (lol) I love my inlaws and I can't wait to meet them. She actually lives near Morales (hee hee, my last name too) in Puerto Barrios so its about a 5 hr bus ride from Guatemala City. I'm not too keen about traveling too much, I really prefer to be in the comforts of my in laws but I do know about the revenge killings. I hope everything turns out okay and I would def. contact someone to get the DHS to expedite the case.

ujcdv
07-07-2008, 07:19 PM
Just got off the phone with my congressmans office, they want me to write up a sequence of events and give then the copy's of the police reports along with all pertenant information and they will contact DHS and see if we can get an expidite of the waiver.

ojos_de_alicia
07-07-2008, 07:21 PM
good luck!!! i hope that works and your wife can come home asap!!!

JennyM
07-07-2008, 07:41 PM
that is awesome!!!! I hope they do!

Pinkpig
07-07-2008, 08:18 PM
Way to go. I hope that this works for you and quickly.

ujcdv
07-07-2008, 08:21 PM
Me Too! I have to get ahold of my wife and have her fax/scan/mail me a copy of the police report and then type up a letter tonight.

perez782
07-07-2008, 08:32 PM
I'm glad that your congressman can help. wishing the best to your family.

Chapital
07-07-2008, 08:32 PM
Good luck!!!!

starlynnb
07-07-2008, 08:50 PM
I am so sorry for your family. I pray that DHS will expedite your case.

Kikigurl1
07-07-2008, 10:00 PM
That's so great that they are willing to try and help! Good luck!!