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djones9714
08-30-2007, 03:47 AM
I am not sure I am posting in the right thread. Please feel free to move. I just wanted to pass this along.

http://www.shusterman.com/pdf/no-match-lawsuit.pdf

aguilar1115
08-30-2007, 04:11 AM
Edited

djones9714
08-30-2007, 04:16 AM
Yeah, I'm with you. The amount of social security taxes that my son-in-law has paid out of his paycheck, he could buy two vehicles.

I am glad that the attorneys are doing this. Also, here in Virginia, there is a big article stating that the State of Virginia doesn't have the money NOW to enforce the immigration laws that they have passed and that they have a $640M down fall.

I guess I will see how much money I can send them from my next paycheck. I will send it pony-express. Let them sit back and wait for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

melissan02
08-31-2007, 04:27 PM
Huh! Leave it to our government to make an even bigger mess out of things!:rolleyes:

Instead of moving on CIR due to politics/elections, they will create even BIGGER problems surrounding the current immigration laws!! :angry:

I think, rather I hope, there are problems that come up all around----so as to force things. Not only is the SSN issue going to come to a boil, but also some states reluctance to enforce FEDERAL immigration laws. That's why we have separate branches of government and judicial system---the state should not have officers acting as immigration agents!

Congress is back now so let's hope that perhaps, someway, CIR will be re-visited and passed....or at least parts of the current law will be changed to benefit families!

VeronikaK
08-31-2007, 05:07 PM
OMG! i really wanna see that happend! You right, its going to be a bigger mess, everybody is going to be loosing from all of this, particular people like we are -immigtants! Hopefully its not going to slow down every other proccess!

Laura
08-31-2007, 06:15 PM
Read this article (http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_6643369?nclick_check=1). The underlying basis for this big crackdown is illegal. I predict nothing will really come of this. The SS admin cannot legally disclose the mismatches to DHS... what a sham!!!

I blogged (http://laurafern.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/rumors-of-enforcement-really-just-a-ruse/) about this the other day.

I think the worst-case scenario is that scared employers will start firing their mis-matching employees - if they can afford to do it - in fear of a big crackdown. But as far as an actual crackdown, it's not going to happen.

DaveH
09-02-2007, 11:24 AM
Tried to read the article. Wouldn't open without a password. I read the blog but there was nothing indicating what privacy laws. I've never heard of the IRS not cooperating with tax records and so forth when asked. Even if such a rule did exist it would only be at best an agency regulation. If they want to, which they do, it will happen. If a reporter can be jailed for not revealing a source which is constitutionally protected this doesn't stand a chance under judicial review. Its not all sour grapes though. Doesn't it seem odd that in one month is amnesty! amnesty! and the next its lets get em. I have my suspicions of the true agenda. It is a ruse of a different sort. There will be a crackdown to the extent it begins to hurt the economy. The tide will shift again and there will be a last minute amnesty deal.

aussiewench
09-02-2007, 11:24 PM
8/31/2007

Court Halts Government From Implementing Flawed Social Security No-Match Rule

SAN FRANCISCO - A federal judge today issued an order temporarily blocking the government from implementing a new Department of Homeland Security (DHS) rule that would cause U.S. citizens and other authorized workers to lose their jobs, and which would illegally use error-prone social security records as a tool for immigration enforcement. The judge's order also stops the Social Security Administration (SSA) from beginning to send notices on Tuesday to approximately 140,000 employers across the country notifying them of the new rule, which would impact approximately eight million workers.

See here for FULL STORY (http://www.aclu.org/immigrants/workplace/31537prs20070831.html)


No-match" TRO (http://www.aclu.org/pdfs/immigrants/aflcio_v_chertoff_tro.pdf) (Temporary Restraining Order)
Filed August 31, 2007

Laura
09-03-2007, 03:45 PM
Tried to read the article. Wouldn't open without a password. I read the blog but there was nothing indicating what privacy laws. I've never heard of the IRS not cooperating with tax records and so forth when asked. Even if such a rule did exist it would only be at best an agency regulation.

Sorry, I haven't been on the net the last few days. I fixed my link. I'm not sure why that other story brought up that password page. In any case, a simple google search will find a number of stories talking about why the crackdown is illegal.