Tattoos ?

[tasksgirl]

I was wondering how many of your hubbys had tattoos and what were they of and how did CDJ react to it.. do they ever ask about them in the interviews or just medical? Anyone ever had to go to the psycologist for their tattoos? What did they ask ..

Laurel's chat said that she would never send a client with gang tattoos down there.. well obviously not.. but what if they mistake a tattoo of a nickname or something as a gang tattoo.. my hubby just has a nickname but since he also has a charge of vandalism when he was 17 it just doesn't look good together does it.. he was never in gangs.. but it looks bad no ??

[perez782]

Can your hubby take them off?

[NYCwife]

I am not sure of how it looks, but I have heard of some people, including at least one woman, getting referred to what they call (though I am not entirely certain is) a psychologist. I think they just want a second opinion that you are not some unstable, psychotic coming through the system.

nycgrrl

[Theresa]

Well, my hubby has several tats and one is right on his face a teardrop under his eye.. and well you heard the stories gang related,prison,killer ive heard so many stories about this teardrop tattoo lol.. he also has a cross on his middle finger (all his tatts were done when he was in his late teens). and an ex's name on his hand...

when he went thru cdj he was only asked about his tattoo on his face.. and he told em the truth he got it when he was young and he wasnt thinking about what it meant at the time he just got it cuz his friends were getting it.. he didnt get sent to the psycologist. but he also didnt have any criminal history either.

when he was at his appt. they just asked him again if he had ever been in a gang or had any criminal history whatsoever. and he didnt so of course they verified it with the back ground check and that was it he sd he wasnt nervous at all. the only interview that scared him was the medical because of the tatts he was actually surprised it went smoothly.

[Glühbirne]

A nick-name shouldn't be considered gang-related.

My parents are both prison-guards and from thier years working in prison, they can easily tell the difference between gang-related tatoos and "regular" tatoos, and they aren't considered experts. I'm sure the doctors down there have training on how to look for gang tatoos. I woudn't worry too much.

A lot of 17 year old kids do dumb stuff like spray painting buildings. Now days tatoos are more of a mainstream thing than they used to be, so simply having one doesn't create as much suspicion as it would have say twenty years ago.

[tasksgirl]

Yeah and it wasn't even a building it was just the bathroom wall..! Come on almost all kids write on the bathroom wall when ur in school.. But apparently they wanted to crack down ..

Anyway I can't decide if I should leave it or have him get it changed to something else which he kinda wanted to do anyway..

And the thing is that there really isn't an explanation for the nickname if they ask.. it was just a name he created and went by in highschool.. (task- hence my screename) lol

[MMGCA]

I hope they dont see it wrong. i have one.

[Chapital]

My husband doesn't have any tattos, but I know he was asked if he did many times...

[Emily]

My husband has 4 tats and they're all "homemade" so to speak. Hopefully they don't say anything:( He's never been in a gang but he does have many many scars from knife wounds, among other objects from when he was a kid getting into fights in Mexico.

His record is clean in Mexico, and here in the US.

[Mami-cinco]

Our attorney told us that a client she sent down had a tatoo and was backlogged because of it. From what she said was, she had not asked him if he had any and when he got there he was drilled about it. He was then backlogged. I would definitely have your husband say exactly what it means and give details as to when and where he got it. I think her client did not give enough detail and looked like he was not telling the truth.

[perez782]

My husband wants to tatoo his mom and dad and I told him to do it when he gets appriove, not right now, His friend also got backlog for having tatoos. I don't want him to get backlog for this. Taskgirl, can he remove them?

[Isa1983]

WOW!!! I have two tattoos, I hope they don't make a big deal out of them. They are not gang or anything else related, my husband is a tattoo artist and I decided I'd let him practice on me.:D I got a dragon and the trinity sign.

[perez782]

:wha: You let your husband practice on you!! COOL :thumbup:

[Isa1983]

Yeah!!!:D His actually pretty good, I like my lil tatoos. his been doing tatoos since 05 so he has some experience. But now i'm a little worried, i hope I don't get backlogged.

[perez782]

Like someone said here, make sure that you explain yourself at the medical!! Because they will ask!!

[MMGCA]

Yeah!!!:D His actually pretty good, I like my lil tatoos. his been doing tatoos since 05 so he has some experience. But now i'm a little worried, i hope I don't get backlogged.

Maybe you can say that your hubby did them for you.

[y14gemini]

My husband has tattoos and when we went to the IV interview, they asked and he said yes. They looked at them and took photos. (They said they had to make sure they weren't gang related or if he had done a crime and his tattoos were identifiers. I am guessing they sent the tattoos to an outside agency--police). I called the embassy about 2 weeks later and they said he was fine (which we knew because he has been here in the US like 20 years and he has never been in a gang). Now remember we went through Honduras not Mexico!

[aprilstorm]

My husband has tattoos and he was asked about them...but everything went fine..he has 5 of them.

[Isa1983]

Maybe it just depends on the type of tattoo someone has, and if it looks like it could be gang related they will pay more attention to it, I really hope that I don't have any trouble.

aprilstorm, you made me feel better, I'm glad your husband didn't have any trouble.

[aprilstorm]

They just asked him about them and he told them he did it when he was young and stupid :) he has the last supper on his stomache...och!!! a bulldog on his leg, bugs bunny on his chest, quadalupe on his arm, and a woman on his shoulder. Maybe it does depend on what they look like and who you get it. I'm just gald that they didn't give him any grief over them.

[Dorothea]

My husband has tattoos, and I have reason to believe it negatively affected him during his medical exam.

[y14gemini]

My husband has tattoos, and I have reason to believe it negatively affected him during his medical exam.

:( I am sorry!!

[Dorothea]

Eh, it's alright, it certainly wasn't the ONLY thing that negatively afftected him... You know, that whole drug use thing:innocent:

[Isa1983]

I got my tattoos last year, one in september and the other on christmas day, me and my sister have matching tats. anyway I have never used drugs and have no criminal record so I hope that everything goes well.

Dorothea, I am very sorry about your husband, I totally know what you mean about the drug thing. We have a friend that was trying to get a job with the Sheriff Dept. and they did a polygraph test on his and he admitted that he did drugs when he was young. so they denied him the job. Oh and it wasn't like he was an addict he just tried them.

[y14gemini]

My husband has tattoos, and I have reason to believe it negatively affected him during his medical exam.

Eh, it's alright, it certainly wasn't the ONLY thing that negatively afftected him... You know, that whole drug use thing:innocent:

:(

[Catiana]

I know that all cases are different, but when my husband went to his first interview in April 2006, I spent quite a bit of time with a girl whose husband was having his interview the same time as Turro! She told me that she was requested at her husband’s physical. He had a couple of tattoos and they asked him if his wife had any. When he told them she had three, they wanted to know exactly what they were and where they were! Then they called her in, looked at her tattoos and then asked her what and where her husband’s tattoos were! Try to be prepared for anything!!

[Dorothea]

Dorothea, I am very sorry about your husband, I totally know what you mean about the drug thing. We have a friend that was trying to get a job with the Sheriff Dept. and they did a polygraph test on his and he admitted that he did drugs when he was young. so they denied him the job. Oh and it wasn't like he was an addict he just tried them.

That stuff makes me so mad!!!

Catiana, it's great to see you:)

[tasksgirl]

Wow.. now I'm getting worried .. I dunno if it's worth having it removed or not.. I see 50% saying they were fine and 50% believing it can negatively affect you.. that's kinda a high risk ... :(

[tasksgirl]

Ok we talked about it I'm thinking its a good idea to get it changed to something more explainable? His tat combined with his vandalism charge (when he was barely 17!!!) make him look like something that he's really, really not .. I don't want to give them any reason to give him trouble.. we've worked too hard for this..

He always wanted to have a better one anyway.. what do ya'll think..?

[Emily]

Task if he just has a nickname tatted I don't think it would negatively effect him. i mean lots of people get tats now days, and it doesn't make you a gang member!

I would think they would be experts by now on tatoos, with all the poeple they see on a daily basis.

My sisters husband has gang related tatoos, as well as a few of my husbands cousins (he doesn't hang around them luckily) and I can see a HUGE difference in those vs regular design shop tats. Gang related one's have a distink design about them that are kind of obvious; and some not so obvious.

I'm no expert on immigration THATS for sure, but Task I think your hubby will be ok!

[Adriane]

I think that if he wants to get it changed anyway, then now might be a good time.

I think you have an excellent case, Tasks, but if you are like me, you would want to check every possible box and this could be one of them.

My husband doesn't have any tattoos, but he does have scars- a lot of scars. And they asked him about every single one of them- and a lot were from machetes (he grew up in the jungle, so it sort of makes sense, in a very non-OSHA sort of way...)

They inspected every inch of him and I mean EVERY INCH. In detail. And poked with a pen. I wasn't there, but he told me later that if they had done the sorts of things they did to him to me, he would have been upset.

The medical exam is one of the weirdest and most unpredictable and least regulated parts of this process- I say if you can make it easier, then do.

Good luck!

[Mami-cinco]

I think that if he wants to get it changed anyway, then now might be a good time.

I think you have an excellent case, Tasks, but if you are like me, you would want to check every possible box and this could be one of them.

My husband doesn't have any tattoos, but he does have scars- a lot of scars. And they asked him about every single one of them- and a lot were from machetes (he grew up in the jungle, so it sort of makes sense, in a very non-OSHA sort of way...)

They inspected every inch of him and I mean EVERY INCH. In detail. And poked with a pen. I wasn't there, but he told me later that if they had done the sorts of things they did to him to me, he would have been upset.

The medical exam is one of the weirdest and most unpredictable and least regulated parts of this process- I say if you can make it easier, then do.

Good luck!

They also inspected all of my husbands scars, they pointed one out that he did not even realize he had????

[Emily]

I think that if he wants to get it changed anyway, then now might be a good time.

I think you have an excellent case, Tasks, but if you are like me, you would want to check every possible box and this could be one of them.

My husband doesn't have any tattoos, but he does have scars- a lot of scars. And they asked him about every single one of them- and a lot were from machetes (he grew up in the jungle, so it sort of makes sense, in a very non-OSHA sort of way...)

They inspected every inch of him and I mean EVERY INCH. In detail. And poked with a pen. I wasn't there, but he told me later that if they had done the sorts of things they did to him to me, he would have been upset.

The medical exam is one of the weirdest and most unpredictable and least regulated parts of this process- I say if you can make it easier, then do.

Good luck!

It never occured to me they would check scars. Now i'm worried. My husband has tons of scars from fighting as a kid. Thats kind of strange that they would check scars that thoroughly. I mean it's Mexico for goodness sake, and soccer is really popular there- there will be scars from it, and more then likely there will be a lot of them. I know my husbands knees, and legs are covered in scars from soccer.

[lost-in-transmigration]

Who are these people? one would think they are the ones that need psychological help. Do they work for the US? are they just people that find pleasure treating others poorly? do they have an inferiority complex, and this is their therapy?

I have been reading some of the posts about the "medical", and it seems everybody comes out of there feeling violated.

Ok, focus, yeah the tattoo, well, once in Mexico this landlady told us she didn't rent this apt to this couple just because they had tattoos, and she said "you know, they are this and that people". Assumptions, prejudice , geez, it seems in Mexico people tend to be a bit more uptight ...about a lot of things, ok I don't know where I was going with this.

I guess if he has a butterfly tattoo on his arse then that would definitely negatively afftect him, JK, I'm just being silly.

They inspected every inch of him and I mean EVERY INCH. In detail.

Adriane, do you mean a sort of prostate exam? I don't mean to be graphic, but do they go "up there" as well?

[sol1975]

My husband has a couple of tribal tattoos, you know the ones that look like bracelets and he has a tattoo of a sun with my name and my children's name around the sun. Well anyway the clinic told the consulate about his tattoos, none gang related. WHen he got to the consulate the lady asked him about his tattoos and he replied honestly, she gave him a dirty look and said I dont even know why you applied, you shuldn't have applied with all of those tattoos. hmmmm

[Autumnstarr71]

Nobody ever mentioned that some hispanic people have a tattoo for identification purposes like my Sil has her name on the underside of her forearm. Just in case she was lost while crossing over. My hubby has 2 homemade ones and 1 little heart with his name. I hope it dont affect him any.

[Adriane]

Who are these people? one would think they are the ones that need psychological help. Do they work for the US? are they just people that find pleasure treating others poorly? do they have an inferiority complex, and this is their therapy?

I have been reading some of the posts about the "medical", and it seems everybody comes out of there feeling violated.
Ok, focus, yeah the tattoo, well, once in Mexico this landlady told us she didn't rent this apt to this couple just because they had tattoos, and she said "you know, they are this and that people". Assumptions, prejudice , geez, it seems in Mexico people tend to be a bit more uptight ...about a lot of things, ok I don't know where I was going with this.

I guess if he has a butterfly tattoo on his arse then that would definitely negatively afftect him, JK, I'm just being silly.




The medical exam, in my opinion, is one of the least regulated and least understood parts of the whole process. They DO ask questions unrelated to medical history (like have you ever had trouble with immigration) and they DO report your answers back to the consulate.


Adriane, do you mean a sort of prostate exam? I don't mean to be graphic, but do they go "up there" as well?

Um, okay, well my husband is 'uncut' and this prompted the doctor to spend several minutes poking around this area and actually poking under the skin in question with her pen. I think there was some sort of Q-tip swabbing as well. I don't think she was looking for signs of disease because the blood & urine tests should have revealed any of that.

I guess I just don't understand what my husband's genitals have to do with National Security- as a wife, I'm offended, as a tax-payer, I appalled.

[ojos_de_alicia]

my husband has many tattoos... and we were sent to phych.. but he also has a record as well... they make their own rules sometimes anyways.. something you and I may think is nothing.. to them is some huge dilema

[ojos_de_alicia]

oh and my husband went like 3 mos b4 our appt and changed one of his BIG tattoos into something else....

[foureverbleu]

I have a question regarding the med. and scars. My by was in a huge car accident when he was younger and his stomach looks like Frankenstiens. He has tons of scars from surgery. Will this effect him? Plus my bf has no tattoos, but I have a lot. Will they ask his about mine? (ie in pictures?)

[Mami-cinco]

The medical exam, in my opinion, is one of the least regulated and least understood parts of the whole process. They DO ask questions unrelated to medical history (like have you ever had trouble with immigration) and they DO report your answers back to the consulate.

I was so worried about the medical that I made sure my husbands boxers were plain and did not bring any of his Corona boxers I buy him every year for Christmas. LOL

[tasksgirl]

LOL! papi how funny.. yeah I'll have to make sure I dress him nice .. and that he's totally coached for the stupid questions they may ask .. the medical is starting to scare me! It kinda seems they can do whatever they want.. wasn't someone accused of being a drug user because he admitted his friends sometimes smoked around him? That is really skeezy !!

Adriane - WOW .. wow.. what is their purpose for doing that.. is that "situation" that unusual ??

Those of you that had trouble was it a certain clinic or are they both like this ?

[Mami-cinco]

LOL! papi how funny.. yeah I'll have to make sure I dress him nice .. and that he's totally coached for the stupid questions they may ask .. the medical is starting to scare me! It kinda seems they can do whatever they want.. wasn't someone accused of being a drug user because he admitted his friends sometimes smoked around him? That is really skeezy !!

Adriane - WOW .. wow.. what is their purpose for doing that.. is that "situation" that unusual ??

Those of you that had trouble was it a certain clinic or are they both like this ?

Husband went to the small clinic because Alfredo recommended it. Hubby said they were polite to him. The strange thing was as he was asked to move his private area back and forth, the lady looked straight at him and asked about drug use. She then said, "Did you ever taste a little cocaine from your finger just out of curiosity". So they get you at the most vulnerable and see what they can get out of you.

[Emily]

This is horrible! Has anyone ever complained or reported this? Is there anywhere to report this? They need to know this isn't tolerable, and they need to get in trouble for this behavior.

they have way too much power!

[sweetlove1236]

This crap is crazy i swear! i feel like i need to role play with my husband to make sure that he is prepared for ANY situation that may arise. My hubby has psoriasis that flares up now and then in different places on his body and the sores look kind of like really dry skin. I need to make sure that his dermatologist documents everything about this disease so it does not negatively affect him in the interview because those @##$$ people at the medical exam would probably make a big deal if we did not have documentation. How ridiculous:mad:

[lost-in-transmigration]

has it ever occurred to you that we might have some "infiltrated" people here on this forum, be it those clinic personnel or CDJ Post employees. Just wondering.

Maybe someone could give 20/20 or Dateline a call. There is plenty of material for their next undercover investigation, or even a congressman, like when the U.S. government has injected hundreds of foreigners it has deported with dangerous psychotropic drugs against their will to keep them sedated during the (deportation) trip back to their home country (Washington Post) (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/specials/immigration/cwc_d4p1.html)

I also wonder if they have their own contest, like see how many uncut, cut, big, small, shaven, unshaven, straight, crooked, etc , they get to "play" with on a daily basis. That's ...sick


The strange thing was as he was asked to move his private area back and forth, the lady looked straight at him and asked about drug use

Papi-5 what do you mean back and forth? with his hands, like a pendule or like when it's , you know ... "saluting" and it kinda gets 'pumped" a bit more?

[perez782]

Papi, that back and forth is CRAZY, What 's up with that. Yes, I agree with you Lost in Transmigration, we should call 20/20 to do a report about this. This is just CRAZY.

[briza]

This is horrible! People are already in a very stressful situation, and to be humiliated like this! :angry:
My hubby went to the clinic next to the consulate back in July, and he says he was examined with his boxers on. However, my cousin's husband went through the process back in 2004 and he was asked to stand in line with a couple other men - all naked! Something should definitely be done about this.

[1MessedUpSourPatchKid]

Task,

I agree with Adriane. If your hubby is thinking about changing his tattoo anyways this would be the best time to do it.

All these stories are creeping me out. Where are these people's hearts? treating human beings like that.

[sandra191406]

Wow! This thread is such an eye opener. I have learned many things I was not aware of before. :huh:

[Mami-cinco]

[QUOTE=lost-in-transmigration;190884i Papi-5 what do you mean back and forth? with his hands, like a pendule or like when it's , you know ... "saluting" and it kinda gets 'pumped" a bit more?[/QUOTE]

He said he had to move the whole package from side to side. Another guy told us he had to pull his foreskin.

[tasksgirl]

Gosh I know this is making me angry I don't understand why they are allowed to get away with this.. question do they work for the u.S government or is it a Mexican business..?

[Dorothea]

This is horrible! Has anyone ever complained or reported this? Is there anywhere to report this? They need to know this isn't tolerable, and they need to get in trouble for this behavior.

they have way too much power!

Emily, we certainly reported our situation... But you know, they have the power, and what do our little tiny voices matter?

Tasks, I belive the US govt. Laurel suggested that people send letters to the CDC (?I think) in Georgia to make complaints about the medical exams (or maybe it was for ridiculous drug findings???)...

[lost-in-transmigration]

Papi, that back and forth is CRAZY, What 's up with that

funny, but hey, nobody answered my question?

has it ever occurred to you that we might have some "infiltrated" people here on this forum

CDJ Post employees reading our posts or the "bad guys" from the Clinica.

Makes me wonder now. uhm

I think they are just angry Mexicans "ratting other Mexicans out".

We'll do something about it, you'll see. The power of the Internet and US Media.

[lost-in-transmigration]

or maybe it was for ridiculous drug findings???)...

in a guy´s sack? uhmm cartels are not aware of that method

[cherrycandy001]

I have 3 Tat's and when I went to my medical in CDJ she asked about all three and then requested a urine sample. I knew I was clean though...so I didn't worry about it.

[Dorothea]

in a guy´s sack? uhmm cartels are not aware of that method

I'm talking about the decision they made based on my husband's case.

[Isa1983]

Hey this might sound a little odd, but since the clinic people have been making such a fuss about tattoos and scars I thought; What about if someone had a breast enlargement surgery, (Implants). Do you guys think that they will make an even bigger deal, cause now someone has tattoos and implants??? Just wondering:innocent:

PS. Will the breast implants affect the result of the X-rays??

[Erica]

All of yall got me thinking HMMM?! I haven't had a chance to ask my husband exactly what happened in the medical exam only the general stuff since we had so much in our minds I didnt think of asking him what weird things they made him do! Im going to ask him as soon as he wakes up!

[sandra191406]

Keep us posted Erica :D

[jeannie]

Ok we talked about it I'm thinking its a good idea to get it changed to something more explainable? His tat combined with his vandalism charge (when he was barely 17!!!) make him look like something that he's really, really not .. I don't want to give them any reason to give him trouble.. we've worked too hard for this..

He always wanted to have a better one anyway.. what do ya'll think..?

I think this might be a good idea, but wouldn't the tatoo look fresh. It's seems better for them to think he was just dumb when he did it and it was a long time ago. Then for them to think he just did it. (they won't know he was changing one,they might think he just got it) I don't know much about them, just thinking.

[Autumnstarr71]

Has anyone ever heard of them taking hair samples for drug testing or is it just a urine or blood test?

[dnatej]

Hubby has no tats but was asked numerous times if he had any.

[jsierra1982]

WHen he got to the consulate the lady asked him about his tattoos and he replied honestly, she gave him a dirty look and said I dont even know why you applied, you shuldn't have applied with all of those tattoos. hmmmm

ummm...that isn't good.

Nobody ever mentioned that some hispanic people have a tattoo for identification purposes like my Sil has her name on the underside of her forearm. Just in case she was lost while crossing over.

that's heartbreaking. i didn't know that.


Um, okay, well my husband is 'uncut' and this prompted the doctor to spend several minutes poking around this area and actually poking under the skin in question with her pen. I think there was some sort of Q-tip swabbing as well. I don't think she was looking for signs of disease because the blood & urine tests should have revealed any of that.

The strange thing was as he was asked to move his private area back and forth, the lady looked straight at him and asked about drug use. She then said, "Did you ever taste a little cocaine from your finger just out of curiosity". So they get you at the most vulnerable and see what they can get out of you.

WOW. with a PEN??? and BACK AND FORTH???? i mean, i knew about the odd stuff that goes on like naked vision tests, but this is reaching a whole new level. of course, my ridiculous husband's response when i told him all this was just, "i hope it's a female doctor and then i'll be ok." of course he said that just to piss me off but still...

my husband doesn't have any tattoos, thank goodness, but he has a scar on his stomach from where someone stabbed him with a key while he was in a bar in toluca...should he admit to that? it makes him look like he gets in bar fights whereas in reality he hardly drinks at all.

[jessfs8]

Gosh I don't know what to think now. At least you guys can share your experiences with the ones who have not done the medical to be prepared but hubby is from Nicaragua and I have no one who can share their experience with me :ah:. Hubby has several tats, none are gang related, he has a naked woman sitting on an eight ball (pool ball) on his arm, since his dad owns a pool hall and has had it for more than 30 years. He also has Jesus hand on his back, almost as big real hands, he has the peace and love sign on his leg, he has a $ sign on a hand and three dots on that same hand, those 3 last ones were made by him with a machine he made himself. I hope we don't have any issues although Nicaragua is known for not having too much of gang activity.

[jeannie]

WOW. with a PEN??? and BACK AND FORTH???? i mean, i knew about the odd stuff that goes on like naked vision tests, but this is reaching a whole new level. of course, my ridiculous husband's response when i told him all this was just, "i hope it's a female doctor and then i'll be ok." of course he said that just to piss me off but still....
:DTypical male response.

[tasksgirl]

LOL my hubby said something along those lines also.. about the female nurse

[sandra191406]

Men ! :waiting: :blush: