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branquinha
08-16-2007, 01:27 AM
Hello All!

My cousin, who is a USC, is turning 21 this coming October, and he will apply for his father, who is not in the US.
Since I am going through a process for my husband as well, and am involved in this whole immigration thing, I will be helping them out with the paperwork.

I have some questions about it though, since his will be a Consular Processing, which is different than my husband's who is AOS.

1) My uncle was not married to my cousin's mother when my cousing was born.
I was reading the I-130 and it says something about him having to be legitimated before his 18th birthday. Does anyone know what this means?
As far as their relationship, my cousin lived with his father (and mother) until they were about 11/12, then the mother brought my cousin (actually my cousins, as my uncle had 2 sons with this woman) to the US, where they later became USC. For all this time they have lived here, they have always gone back to Brazil to see my uncle (every year they spend summer there), and they communicate very often. I am adding this here because what I want to come accross is, even though my uncle was not married to my cousin's mother, he is not only his biological father, but he is also a present father (even with the distance).
Anyway, the form asks for evidence of this legitimation... I have no idea what he will have to send.

2) I'm not sure if I am correct in what I think the Consular Processing consists of, so I'm going to put down what I think... I would appreciate if anyone could let me know if I am wrong about anything step, or missing something, etc.:

First my cousin will have to send the I-130 to Texas Service (he lives in Florida). Once Texas approves it, they will send the paperwork to the NVC in New Hampshire. Because this is an immediate relative petition, the processing will continue immediately (meaning, no need to wait for a visa #), and they will send the I-864 and the DS-3032 to my cousin (along with the fee bills). I am assuming he would have to return this to them, and then once they receive they would send his whole package to the Consulate in Rio, Brazil.
My uncle would receive notification that he would have to go in for an interview... in the mean time he would have to get his medicals and fingerprinting (?) done. Once these were completed and everything was all set, then be would be called in to pick up his visa (is it the actual green card?).

3) My uncle is currently married (not to my cousin's mother, of course). Will his wife get derivative benefits? (If yes, will my uncle have to fill out a separate DS-230 for his wife too?)

I think that's it for now!

Thanks a bunch, in advance, to anyone who may chime in with answers!

MendozaQH
08-17-2007, 12:00 AM
Legitimation would be the father's name on the birth certificate. If his name is not on the BC, follow the rules for a child born out of wedlock:

A child born out of wedlock and you are the father:If the child was not legitimated before reaching 18 years old, you must file your petition with copies of evidence that a bona fide parent-child relationship existed between the father and the child before the child reached 21 years. This may include evidence that the father lived with the child, supported him or her, or otherwise showed continuing parental interest in the child's welfare.

Legitimate in this sense in that the name was not added to the BC.


The father will do the medical once there is a notice of appointment. When it is done abroad, it has to be done at a certain clinic and with an appointment notice. The fingerprints will also be done at the consulate at the interview. A visa will be put in the passport. Once the father comes through the POE, the passport will be stamped and the GC will arrive within a few weeks.

Not sure about the wife though.....there should be a way I would imagine.

branquinha
08-17-2007, 03:18 PM
Thanks Mendoza...
About legitimation though... My uncles name is on my cousin's birth certificate...but like I said, his parents were not married...on the I-130, it asks for you to provide the marriage certificate of parents...along with the birth certificate...I mean, wouldn't my cousin still be considered born out of wedlock?

Thanks again!

MendozaQH
08-17-2007, 04:34 PM
Yeah, he would be considered born out of wedlock. I think the issue that they are covering with that category is that if the father is not present to sign the birth papers in most or all countries, his name cannot appear on the birth certificate. Then there are some countries where you cannot change the BC once it is printed. Providing the marriage certificate with a date prior to the birth is like "extra" proof I think, but in your counsins case I think the name on the BC is sufficient, but sending proof of an exsisting father/son relationship as well can eliminate any doubts. (for example a scenario where there is no contact or relationship besides blood and then the father realizes the child is US citizen so he "uses" the child to get in the US....which is basically fraud)

Good Luck!

branquinha
08-17-2007, 06:21 PM
That's what I thought...
Anyway, they have had a relationship for their entire lives (despite de distance in the past years) and we can definitely provide some paperwork to prove that (thank God)...I mean, my cousin travels every summer to see his dad, his dad sends him money every month, they talk to each other almost every day via net/phone, etc...

I think they should be ok... but since I'm helping them with the paperwork, I just figured I ask, so that all their bases are covered!

Thanks again!

MendozaQH
08-17-2007, 06:49 PM
If I find any info on the father's wife, I will let you know.

branquinha
08-17-2007, 08:21 PM
Thanks Mendoza!

branquinha
08-21-2007, 04:15 AM
Is there anyone else out there that could possibly have any insight to my question???

Thanks in advance!

aussiewench
08-21-2007, 08:43 PM
branquinha, I do know from reading other experiences that when a US citizen son or daughter wishes to bring both parents to the US, a separate I-130 is filed for each. The same goes with the DS-230 etc. Separate petitions, separate visa applications, separate immigrant visas. There is no derivative status in that situation. It would be exactly the same for one parent and a step-parent. There are filing instructions for when filing for a step-parent here (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=01b6194d3e88d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=4f719c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD)

Submit them together and they should stay together and be processed together.